Censorship in the Virtual Deaf World?!?

 

 
 
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  1. MM Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 12:56 am

    I am at deaf.read because the few sites that exist for discussions in the UK are run by a group of 4 or 5 people, I crossed swords with them and was edged out or banned from them. If you peruse their sites you will not find a single link to anything I do, I do not exist as they are concerned… I don’t use any different way of bogging or hold a different viewpoint, to what I did then, and have had little or no problems in America, who appear to be more open to alternative views. If the Americans think you are a con act they soon tell you !

    I was called names, labeled a troll, an anti-cultural commentator, had pornography posted by them on my blog, had another deaf club blog zeroed cos they flooded it with vile and nasty content, they all came ‘anon’ ! it was a breath of fresh air here by comparison.

    I wouldn’t say there is a lot of censorship in the UK we just do not have anything like deaf.read, they did try but it was the same people who operated the ‘closed shop’ before and it descended into farce as they edited, omitted and attacked commentators even before the comments got aired, when you have that system of moderation then comment is pointless, in the end the UK aggregate failed as it inevitably will.

    Deaf-UK is mooted the leading British deaf site with thousands of members, but it operates in a relative vacuum. The same people that set up alternatives to that were kicked out of it by the UK moderators !

    It is why I didn’t agree with deaf.read trying the same approach. The problem seems to be in an excessive desire by some deaf (They aren’t all cultural by any means), to ‘protect’ the culture from what they see as unwarranted attacks, in reality it is them resisting the inevitable march of integrational access to deaf culture with all that entails. You have Carl, we have a number like him…

    I’ve left the UK behind mostly, until these people go, or are consigned to the same fate as the Dodo… I have to choose Brit sites now firstly ensuring they don’t run them, because if they do, then contributions would not be possible. In retrospect it accounts for the fact Brit output online is virtually non-extant.

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  2. Jared Evans Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 4:00 am

    Hi Teri,

    On DeafRead, as long as the posts meet the guidelines, they will be put on the front page. All the other posts show up on the Extra page. We don’t practice censorship at DeafRead. We do occasionally remove posts at the request of the blogger/vlogger who created the post. You can see everything that we publish by visiting both the front page and the Extra page. Sometimes when a post is in a grey area, it can become difficult for the DeafRead team to decide if it goes on the front page or Extra page. We aren’t perfect but willing to correct our mistakes if there is one. For the vast majority of the posts, the DeafRead team do a great job.

    As for comments on blogs/vlogs, those are beyond our control and it’s up to the blogger/vlogger to determine how to handle the comments.

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  3. Misha Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 5:31 am

    Teri,

    I haven’t gone to DVTV in a while on and off lately and also missed it completely over the weekend. So therefore I don’t know what was going on.
    But from what you’ve described what was happening, I can see why some people are over sensitive and/or sometimes misunderstand. Sarcasm do tend to go over the most deaf people’s heads. And also some couldn’t take any criticize that resulted in perceiving them as insults which isn’t the case. They need to learn to accept the criticizes and learn from them. Even though I know it is very hard to accept those criticizes, but still….
    They need to roll with the punches and move on. If they don’t like it when they see it all they can do is IGNORE and move on. Some doesn’t seem to, unfortunately.
    However I agree with you, censorship shouldn’t happen without slander, libelous, false information, etc. They shouldn’t be pushed out for that reason unless there is hard evidence on slander, etc.
    If they don’t like what they see or read, they can always leave them alone like I do with religious and few others that I may not agree with. I rarely stepped in to discuss the religion because that’s not for me. I just come to have some serious intelligent discussions or have some fun.

    Thanks for bringing that up.

    Misha :D

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  4. Candy Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 6:56 am

    Hi Teri,

    I didn’t follow every single comments in that DVTV video, I normally do not go there because it is time consuming. But, someone alerted me to what was termed “A great debate” on DOD - DOD and DOD - DOH. So, I went there and checked it out. Then, someone alerted me that the site was taken down due to one person making insults. Now, I”m not sure what was said but knowing how that person is, he can be sarcastic yet, he’s always like that, so one has to wonder if it is not really sarcastic at play but his tendency to put people down. Regardless, I agree that it is a form of censorship to take the site down. Many of the discussions were well received by many deaf/hoh people. And, like you said, comments can be moderated.

    Instead of taking the site down, one could have just give out a warning that the next insult will result in moderating that person’s comment.

    It used to be a big problem in DR and DVTV encompasses a wide variety of deaf people from all walks of life, which does not surprise me that there may be more opinions that are at odds with each other.

    We all are in control of our content, we can choose to moderate when needed rather than resorting to censorship. But, something tells me that we have a LONG way to go in educating our people about censorship. :)

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    Teri Reply:
    October 1st, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Candy 

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    Candy Reply:
    October 1st, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Yeah, I saw that part where this person was not coming back and missed everything after that…including your comments! :)
    Thanks for briefing the rest of the story up. Also, if the video was removed from the owner, why did he do that?

    And, speaking of text video, since I don’t have video capability to respond in DVTV, is text considered insulting to those that are in DVTV? Just wondering…..

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  5. Dianrez Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 7:56 am

    Like Candy says, I don’t go to DVTV because it is so time-consuming. The topic of censorship also applies to DeafRead; there is a fine line between abuse and honest dialogue, and it is often blurred by those who use sarcasm, name calling and veiled insults.

    Taking down whole threads of discussion because of one or two people shouldn’t happen, though. Perhaps just those certain people could be removed or blocked.

    Really good threads could be preserved and translated to condensed text for the benefit of hearing, non-signing and time challenged people, since this is the true Voice of the Deaf Community.

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    Teri Reply:
    October 1st, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Dianrez 

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    Dianrez Reply:
    October 1st, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Thanks for the response, it helped me focus a bit better.

    I wondered, too, if the person who took down the thread did it because it was not possible to delete just one or two respondents so preferred to take down the whole thing to stop the offending respondents. Just a guess. Even though the remarks might not be offensive to you, it could be plenty upsetting to that person.

    Also, wondered if translating the thread might not be permissible if the vlog belongs to somebody who had the right to take it down. If he gives permission, it could be more practical to condense and paraphrase than to translate it sign for word.

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  6. Tayler Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 8:33 am

    In the past two weeks, I was asked by the owners of two vlogs to remove them from DeafVIDEO.TV. As always, I oblige immediately. They first deleted the videos from YouTube so the videos were unplayable on DeafVIDEO.TV anyhow. I didn’t think they needed to remove it, but I make it a policy to respect their wish. I wonder if I should make a vlog, or some kind of announcement, every time someone requests their vlog to be deleted so this confusion is prevented.

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  7. Mishkazena Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 8:35 am

    Teri you bought up many excellent points.

    As a DeafRead editor, I second what Jared said. There are no attempts to practice censorship by DR editors. The entries are placed on DR front page or extra based on the guidelines. Occassionally an entry is removed by the request of the owner of the blog/vlog. We do get many requests by unsatisfied readers to delete unpopular entries, but they are told that Freedom of Speech and Press is adhered strictly here.

    As a private blogger: I know what you are referring to. Yes that thread at DVTV was an excellent one and I was planing to catch up on the weekend, after someone brought it to my attention. I only managed to keep up to 60 comments before it was removed, much to my disappointment. I asked several commenters what happened and was told it was removed by request of the vlogger there due to nasty attacks. I haven’t seen these comments but apparently they were ugly, leaving some people feeling offended. Unfortunately it’s not the first time we’ve seen some good discussions derailed by a pissing contest or personal attacks. Apparently some commenters are unable to discuss at an intellectual level if the debate gets hot. We can use peer pressure to discourage that from occurring, educating others that personal insults or pissing, non- constructive dialogue are not encouraged and to show some respect. I suggest if the commenters are disappointed by the removal of the thread, to contact the vlogger to express their feelings. As you said, participating in the discussion is a personal investment of time and energy, especially at DVTV where it is indeed very time consuming to watch the commenters. When that thread is taken down, the investment is somewhat wasted, though not totally wasted because we did benefit from the discussion. It may be something the vlogger hasn’t thought when he took it down.

    Again a great topic.

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  8. Fishy Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 9:28 am

    Excellent topic! I had visited DeafVideo last weekend and witnessed the VERY wrongdoing, removing the vlog with a lot of excellent video comments. It was really about the revenge. I saw it with my own eyes. He vexed with those two commenters. I agree with you there was nothing wrong. The person who posted held the grudge against those people, not the messages themselves. Teri, you did a great job avoiding to naming people or discussing which vlogs you were talking about. I know which one and what you are talking about. You are absolutely right it was very wrong of Tayler to remove it. The site does not belong to that vlogger, only his video clip. He should have only removed his video at YouTube or requested Tayler to remove the bad comments, not the whole thing. You are damn right that was CENSORED by that person who was slightly offended, yet did insult or make fun of other video commentors. What hyprocitical bullshit. The video comments belong to the public, not to that person. He took the risk posting YouTube clip on someone else’s site. If it was his blog, he is free to remove his vlogs and comments. But the video comments belong to DeafTV! That’s the whole different story. Thank you for bringing it up!!i

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  9. RLM Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 9:59 am

    For a fine example what happened with me as a deaf blogger. I did ask the DeafRead editors to remove some of my blog postings like “Roasting Bernard Bragg”.

    I realized that I done the real cheap shots at Bernard Bragg which were not really necessary at all. Nothing to do with his past accomplishments and professions. I reconsidered what I have been doing with the blog entry on Bernard Bragg.

    The DeafRead forum never engage in censorship.

    How sad of the Deaf UK community being the closed-minded and clannish which they ought to vow to the ideals of freedom of speech and expression within the Manga Carta charter inspired the concept of freedom of speech and expression from any harms or fears.

    RLM

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    Candy Reply:
    October 1st, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    But, why ask DR to remove some of your blog posts when you actually have control of it? if you had deleted it from your end or unpublished it, it will not be on DR anymore. Title might be there but the content will be gone. Know that we all learn and grow from the start and our views evolve all the time, you can always do a new post that “revisits” that old post and link to it and explain that your views have changed.

    Yet, I think that the ones that generate deep discussions should be left alone like the Video that was removed in DVTV.

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  10. MM Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 10:13 am

    I’m very relucant to complain at all to deaf.read, despite reading some very questionable comments on other blogs. I have complained once I think, but deaf.read had no control obviously over the comment spots on blogs, and it was there that abuse took place, if you have a blogger with a dual agenda to attack someone or a view, then the comment spot is the way to bypass deaf.read moderation, they allow ‘anons’ to hurl abuse and leave it on their sites, or even, manufacture ‘anons’ themselves, then perversly suggest this is ‘freedom of speech’ they don’t ‘censor’ they are the worst. My addy was mimicked and all sorts it was despicable. Another dodge is removing one blog, replacing with another, but still putting up old content from previous blogs that offended, you have only to look at these ‘new’ sites to see only the front window has changed, but the backbiting remains….

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  11. Tayler Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:28 am

    Fishy, at DeafVIDEO.TV, I consider the video comments as owned by the vlogger. Moreover, when the vloggers requested that their videos be deleted, they also wanted the video comments closed.

    BTW, I’ve made a ASL video that essentially says the same thing as my previous comment on this post.

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  12. deafnet Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    i am glad that teri brought this up and it grabs my attention to this subject. i think we should leave it alone, so everyone can benefit by learning from vlog commenters. i sometime remove due to some insult made to me… if 2 or more vloggers involved insulting toward me then i would decide to remove, actually i would deal with a single insult but 2 or more involved?. That would kill me….
    thanks for bringing up the good subject.
    brian morace

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  13. Teri Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 12:25 pm

     

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  14. Brance Long Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    On Liberty by John Stuart Mill 

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  15. Brance Long Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Part of my transcript above.

    John Staurt Mill quoted:
    On Liberty involves an impassioned defense of free speech. Mill argues that free discourse is a necessary condition for intellectual and social progress. We can never be sure, he contends, that a silenced opinion does not contain some element of the truth. He also argues that allowing people to air false opinions is productive for two reasons. First, individuals are more likely to abandon erroneous beliefs if they are engaged in an open exchange of ideas. Second, by forcing other individuals to re-examine and re-affirm their beliefs in the process of debate, these beliefs are kept from declining into mere dogma.
    Thanks!
    Ecnarb

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  16. Dragon21 Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    Brance Long,
    Could you spell the word again? D O Y O N O U S audist? Maybe I missed few letters.
    Dragon21

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    Brance Long Reply:
    October 1st, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Hi Dragon21,

    The “dsyconscious audist” was the word. My apologies for not being clear with my fingerspelling LOL!

    Thanks!
    Ecnarb

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  17. Tayler Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    comment censorship 

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  18. ASLisRisen Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Yeah!!! Teri for US President!!! 

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  19. Mishkazena Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    Apparently there was another great discussion at DVTV I missed. What that was, I don’t know. I only know that I saw the thread that was taken down last weekend before I had a chance to catch up.

    I sure hope people will bring these topics again as I think these topics are very valid and need to be explored thoroughly, so everybody will understand better the issues. :)

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  20. RLM Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    In defense of Tayler Myers, Tayler and other DeafRead editors really tried his own best to preserve the ideals of freedom of speech and expression within the DVTV and DeafRead. That’s what the editorship is all about.

    To be honest with you, I really do not know what the vlog posting from the DVTV from what all of you discuss lately about.

    Tayler surely gave his logical explaination why he had to remove such a particular vlog posting which he and other DR/DVTV editors overlooked it in the first place.

    Many articles and blog entries usually had been removed along with comments.

    Yes, that would be real nice for Tayler to engage in direct dialogues about what to do with comments to be transfered to one of the blogsite or vlogsite for continuous discussion.

    Drmzz,

    Your vlog comments or posting will never turn me against you. FYI, I always have such respect for you no matter what you did insult me with profanity on your blog posting. No big deal for me anyway.

    Every of us are human beings!

    ASLRisen,

    You are quite gorgeous with the eyeglasses. That must be the Palin pheomeon. Aha!

    Candy,

    I formally requested Tayler to remove the remaining short blurb link to the removed blog posting because I don’t want people to click on that posting for all nothing.

    Yes, I could remove my own blog postings, but sometimes the blog posting could be permanently cached on any ISP. I don’t want to leave any footprints aside. Comprendo?

    RLM

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  21. Jean Boutcher Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    I rarely visit DVTV for three reasons. Firstly, it is very time-consuming, clicking each video. Secondly, the quality and the size of some videos are not great and hurt my eyes. Finally, DVTV’s TEXT comments are not available.

    I prefer DeafRead for two reasons. Firstly, I can very fast read a blogpost if I spot the context of any blogpost that is intriguing. Otherwise, I would sail to another blog/vlog whose interesting context catches my eye. Secondly, blogs have a section for comments available, something that DVTV lacks thereof.

    Speaking of “censorship,” I think that some people have not quite grasped the true concept of freedom of speech. I hope that viewers of your video will come into full realisation thereafter.

    ALSO:

    It is distasteful for a blogger to write a post about someone in a most unflattering manner ever imaginable. I do not know of any writer who is a respectful writer for writing something distasteful or without style, class, dignity, and grace. The blogger should memorize that the Deaf world is VERY small and should not hurt a deaf person.

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  22. freezepop Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Teri,

    Wonderful vlog! Deaf Community needs to be one strong unity. Lot of times when hearing parents comes to me and ask…which group is beneficial to my child? It’s embarrassing to compromise the differences between deaf, hoh, ci, etc.

    Websites like Deafvideo.tv should not be biased because I noticed youTube.com brings more deaf vloggers than DeafVideo.tv. Censorship is the problem. If youTube.com is okay with the content then Deafvideo.tv has to be 100% aggregator.

    It hurts our community to limit choices that we live in.

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  23. Jean Boutcher Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Hi Teri,

    While I have access to your vlog, I am unable to access your
    video comments. All of them are blank in the color of black. :-(

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    Teri Reply:
    October 2nd, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    Hi Jean.

    Aw! How come? All video comments and my vlogs are saved as Flash. If you were able to view my vlogs via Flash player, you should not have problems viewing video comments. They are saved as Flash (.flv), too.

    Umm…. what computer do you have? Maybe I can help you figure out why you cannot view video comments. What about Java? Did you block it? Give me more information about your computer and I will see how can I be of help.

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  24. freezepop Says:
    October 1st, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    To RLM,

    Try not to be defensive for Tayler. I’ve always wanted to vlog but it prevents me to vlog. 8 months ago, I registered it and it has never been approved but it’s okay for youTube.com. If you guys are editors then they have to be in a different format. YouTube.com have no editors, they welcome anybody to please as long as they follow the terms and conditions. We all know that Deafvideo.tv is biased and it needs to be loosen up. We do also understand that it’s being sponsored by Sprint for $27,000 a year per site deal. That’s the pressure which I don’t blame you. But it divides the community.

    There’s room for improvement but from my business knowledge…it’s too late because everyone has left and run their own site. Deafcore.com is another example that I was invited to join. I like DeafVillages and they seem unbiased. Also, I felt welcomed.

    WELCOMED is the key word for success.

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  25. Ecnarb Says:
    October 2nd, 2008 at 9:03 am

    Hi Freezepop,

    About Deafcore.com, I was happy for you that Richard Rohem invited you to join his website.

    I don’t go there because of my personal conviction.

    Friend,
    Ecnarb

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  26. MM Says:
    October 2nd, 2008 at 9:06 am

    On a final note, I don’t attempt to put a signed vblog up any more, this is because I just get criticism it is not ‘perfect’ enough, as an acquired deaf person I have attained some sign knowledge obviously, and not least, because my long term soul-mate of 17yrs is from the deaf community and signs only. At first I did a few signed blogs they got attacked immediately in the UK, as not ‘BSL’ (The UK’s sign form), it isn’t I agree. but it is, sign language along the lines of signed English, my partner understands me very well and so do her cultural friends, if my sign was THAT bad I could NOT have maintained a long-term relationship with a BSL user ! but It was still ‘not good enough’ for the deaf blog people.

    I was deterred at every point from improving really, so now only do vblogs occasionally and with captions, which they attacked too, because there was ‘no sign in it’ I can’t win ! No wonder they are isolated, that’s all I can say…. If they want perfection then they aren’t going to get it. The only possible alternative was deaf.read offering a 3rd option to include those deaf who sign but are neither ASL nor BSL, this would avoid the deaf purists nit-picking and obstruction.

    I had to ask deaf.read to withdraw my signed blogs because UK deaf complained it wasn’t BSL, so where does that leave the learner ? answer, OUT. The whole set up shows an appalling LACK of awareness by ASL and BSL deaf of communications which other deaf have to make do with. We are not trying to be cultural signers, we are just communicating best we can, if hearing can accept that, then why aren’t the cultural deaf ?

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  27. Jean Boutcher Says:
    October 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 am

    Tayler,

    Would you please be so kind as to text your comment in that I am unable to see your video comment.

    Thank you.

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  28. freezepop Says:
    October 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 am

    Dear Ecnarb,

    RR, lmao. This is one of your example by assuming that this site is from RR which is not owned by RR. That’s why I brought this issue because Teri was right about the things she said. You’re biased based on assuming that Deafcore is possibility owned by RR. People have to quit assuming things without getting any factual information. Deafcore is owned by someone who is a very interesting person.

    Being welcomed is what I envisioned it.

    Tayler, I posted with ASL but I guess you didn’t like my ugly face, ha. No offense, but there was my ASL but I don’t sign very well. I’m a Ci user and I tried to interact with ASLians. About the $$$, that’s where I get sources from Sprint people.

    If you don’t make that much and how will you survive to pay your home mortgages, etc since you live in San Diego area?

    Steven

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  29. Brance Long Says:
    October 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    Hi Again Freezepop (Steven?)

    I stand by my word.

    YouTube founders Chad Hurley and Steve Chen, and others

    Deafread and DeafVideo.tv Tayler Mayers, and others

    Deaf Villages Rachel Chaikof, Aaron Rose, and others

    Deafcore.ning.com Richard Roehm, the owner

    John Stuart Mill “On Liberty” quoted…
    “He also argues that allowing people to air false opinions is productive for two reasons. First, individuals are more likely to abandon erroneous beliefs if they are engaged in an open exchange of ideas. Second, by forcing other individuals to re-examine and re-affirm their beliefs in the process of debate.”

    I will make a vlog about Deafcore.ning.com and its owner. I will communicate with the audience in my blog and deafvideo.tv (my pals, colleagues, and Deafvideo.tv) that my belief was that Richard Roehm was in fact the owner of Deafcore.ning.com.

    Ecnarb
    sharpening my sword…

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  30. Freezepop Says:
    October 2nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    Ecnarb,

    How do you know if Richard Rohem owns deafcore? Teri was politically correct about her topic and deafcore happens to be the owner of dino Capone, a very smart deaf guy. That shows an example what you’re made of. It affects every deaf people. We cannot afford to maniplate with false assumption and biased websites.

    I agree that every vloggers and bloggers have the right to express and post online. Deaf people need to learn to approach a proper manner regardless. Threat, slander, libel, and defamation is not acceptable and they been to learn the facts to debAte if there’s a ground to discuss.

    The biggest problem is everyoneof us are extremely disversified which creates conflict of interest of some sort. Education system have ruined our deafness society. They pull us into their blender with different philosophy and approach.

    For the sake of our deaf community we have to cut the politics crap and focus on what’s best for our future. We need more deaf events and welcome anybody. We need to cut deaf unemployment levels. We need bilingual exposure for every parents for the kids sake. We re an example and we have responsibility to improve and put welcome attitude as #1 aaproach.

    Ecnard. I didn’t not bitch but I set an example what’s right from wrong. It’s healthy to learn from each others mistAke.

    Hope you understAnd thank you. Steven

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    Ecnarb Reply:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Good morning Steven (freezepop or RR)

    How do I know? Today, I just poured water in the hole and waited for the rodent to come out. I was doing this for the sake of Deaf Community.

    Concerning yours,
    Ecnarb

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  31. Penny Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 8:04 am

    Teri-

    I followed your comments and comments in DRMZZ’s vlog too. I didn’t follow comments in ASLFire’s vlog. I understand how you feel about spending too much time…to share your thoughts, opinion and philosophy about some subjects and then all of your vlogs and others were removed. I think it is completely unfair to you and others. I considered this insulting and mocking too. Now you get to know some vloggers and their pattern so in the future you and others can avoid leaving comments on their vlog or blog because the trust is no longer there. I am sure you do not want to go through this again. Like for me I get to know moderators and found them unprofessional, inept and childlike so I decided to avoid leaving their comments. It is too bad Deafread owners want to keep them on board. I finally understand why many left Deafread. It is too bad that owners do not care about it. They value moderators much more than bloggers/vloggers. I guess it has to do with politics and monies. Life is tough.

    You mentioned that you understood if comments were removed due to slander and libel however I do not understand why you approved Ben Vess’s comment about Joey Baer’s work performance and his interaction with students. His comment was personal attack which should have not been accepted in your blog in the first place. I was appalled that you accepted Ben’s comment because you are a teacher too. You will not like for anyone to write about your work in cyber world. This is a NO NO and unacceptable behavior. We should never discuss or judge anyone’s work performance unless we have hard evidence that the individual harmed students or children. I hope you will think about this and not to let this happen again.

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  32. Freezepop Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 am

    ecnard,

    How can you justify that? It shows that you cannot assume things like that. It kills deaf community.
    RR needs a therapy! I’m not rr! That’s the fact!
    You have no business to indentify who’s who. We’re dealing the problem like Teri mention about her vlog.
    I’m just making a point and sorry if it may be offened but truth often hurts!
    Who cares if they don’t agree with me and it would be heathly to learn from others.

    Please stop assumming if I’m RR and I think this is disrespectful.

    Steven.

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  33. dino capone Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Ecnard,

    You had audacity to post Deafvideo.tv that assumed deafcore.com belongs to RR. It’s not RR! You need to remove it or we’ll press charges against you for Defamation for false information to the public. That is proven to affect the website for this company.

    Domain name can be bought anywhere and the site owner is residing in Tucson, Az.

    Now your reputation is affected by the deaf community. You need to start apologize effective immediately.

    Teri was correct about everything she said. I agree with Steven and few others whom have responded. You’re the shining example by being as a crab theorist! We do not need that kind of inappropriate behavior on any vlog and blog comments, period. That’s the big reason why many vloggers and bloggers drove away from every possible opportunities for deaf to learn in general.

    dino capone

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  34. RLM Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    ASLRisen,

    Quick definition of “phemeneon” like fad and trend. Okay? Yes, you are absolutely right that I did mispell “phemeneon”. I do not have the dictionary right now with me.

    Terri,

    You really do not have to worry about responding in timely manner. We are living i n the 24/7 society. We really do not have to tax ourselves to accompany everything at every moment. Just relax and enjoy your human life as much as possible.

    No wonder, many of us, Americans often experience chronic fatigue and extreme stress within our lives.

    Yes, I finally view your vlog posting at the beginning. I get the grasp of some idea what all of you are talking about.

    No questions about censorship have no place in our democratic society!

    I have no comments since I never seen the censored vlog posting along wiht comments.

    If that is all true about the latest censorship practices within the DVTV. It is really troublesome in many ways. Okay?

    You really do not have to explain in details. Okay?

    RLM

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  35. Jean Boutcher Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Hi again, Teri,

    After receiving your note, I returned to your vlog and clicked. It works!
    I do not understand why it did not work the other day. My desktop computer is HP Pavilion a1610n with Windows XP, Media Center Edition
    – SPS 3. Maybe it has to do with my Internet Explorer Version 7 which does not accept “Active X”. Should it happen again, I will ask you about
    “flv.”

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  36. Ecnarb Says:
    October 3rd, 2008 at 6:16 pm

    Hi Dino,

    I put John Stuart Mill to the test to see if his “On Liberty” was right. I thanked Dino for his participle in this comment.

    I now conclude that free speech is still alive and well.

    I had completed my project and I thanked Teri for letting us to leave our comments here.

    I will let them know that my beliefs have been corrected.

    By the way, I was surprised that you put many of your favorite video clips there today. I don’t agree with your work, but I am entitled to my opinion.

    Ecnarb

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  37. mbb Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 10:47 am

    Aidan Mack & Mike SZZ are bullies on the DVTV. They SCARE me so much - I dont want to do any Vlogs there at all. The Gay/Lesbain issues and the religious nuts went too far!! I couldnt believe that Taylor didnt step in and stop it. That made me realize that DVTV is the worst place for the deaf community.

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  38. Bill Roderick Says:
    October 13th, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Teri,
    Thank you for bringing it up. I enjoyed watching your vblog. You made some good points about what you just explained about this. Keep up the good work on blog/vlog. Keep smiling and cheering.
    Bill

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