DBC: Bilingual Movement!
ASL August 6th, 2008
This morning, I went to store to buy a bottle of water. I saw much less advertisement of cigarette brands in the store. More and more people are non smokers and former smokers because of their anti-smoking awareness.
It just popped up in my mind. There have been many movements against smoking companies and their allies (tobacco industries, politicians, investors). They have succeeded in making smoking companies to admit that smoking habits are dangerous.
Anti smoking groups, who have fought against smoking, tend to have bad experiences such as death in their families, or health problems and even mental health challenges. They also have promoted wellness by marketing healthy lifestyle (exercises, dietary) and even educate parents and their children about smoking so that the children will not go through what they already went through.
In the past, society tended to accept smoking as part of society. But now, smoking is no longer acceptable in our current society. How did that happen? It is all about evidences, statistics, documents, results, reports, wellness, healthy information and many more.
That applies to Deaf movements. They are fighting against anti ASL/Bilingual methods of AGBell and its allies (anti ASL people, anti Bilingual supporters, anti Bilingual/ASL schools, strict AVT supporters, investors, other companies against ASL and Bilingualism) and are promoting Bilingualism/ASL for Deaf babies and their parents. I think DBC is the first official movement to approach AGBell and anti ASL giants assertively to prove that their anti ASL/Bilingual methods have caused so many serious problems and has created unhealthy practices for Deaf community since late 19th century. DBC also appears to be the first official movement to promote Bilingual approach for Deaf babies and their parents.
Now about DBC, it has used same approaches of anti smoking movements. One approach is about fighting against the methods of AGBell and its allies and another approach is about promoting wellness of Deaf lifestyles and ASL/Bilingualism.
I think “Fighting for a good cause and promoting healthy lifestyle of ASL and Bilingualism” is the best practices of all. In my opinion, the concept of fighting without promoting or promoting without fighting is not a good practice.
Your inputs are always welcome except negative attacks. Constructive discussions (agree or disagree) may be published.

August 6th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Great posting! “Fighting for a good cause and promoting healthy lifestyle of ASL and Bilingualism” is cool! We need to market and promote it to everywhere, and we also need to have vlogs subtitled by DBC for hearing parents.
Thank you again for the great movement!
August 6th, 2008 at 9:26 am
You could check out http://www.deafvideo.tv/video/watch/21738/ and read the comments of Terri S, Amy, deafmomof3, etc. I think changing the wording of DBC to HPDBC, something like that… to draw more attention of hearing parents, etc.
However, at the end, it is always hearing parents’ final say.
August 6th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Hi Deb Ann,
Thanks and yes you are right. It is important to promote Bilingualism to every corner of the world for Deaf babies and their parents. I have used my article below my vlog for everyone who do not understand ASL.
Hi Karen,
Good to get your response! Yes I read idea about HPDBC. There are millions of ideas that are always welcome. It is very healthy to share many new ideas and be creative. I think DBC is sufficient because it is for Deaf babies and parents. The name of AGBell does not include the term of “parents” as well as American Society for Deaf Children (nothing about parents) even though it is all about Deaf children and parents. There are always endless discussion about that and I still encourage new ideas. Yes, parents always have final say. We need to promote Bilingualism to parents. Like I made my last vlog DBC: Opportunities
Thanks
Deafchip
August 6th, 2008 at 10:44 am
There isn’t really a big difference with renaming from DBC to HPDBC, because just like DeafChip said, the focus has been on Deaf babies, no matter if their parents are hearing or deaf! In fact, I find it rather amusing, because the people were complaining about how the others were being excluded. Now the name of HPDBC excludes Deaf parents. Yes, it is a good goal to spread the words to hearing parents, but DBC is for ALL Deaf babies of BOTH Deaf and Hearing parents!
August 6th, 2008 at 10:46 am
We are deaf parents that we supported to teach babies to learn sign language to communicate to tell what is wrong like our son who learned sign language when he was 8 months old that he is hearing. He told me something wrong so we took care it. Thank GOD for giving us sign language to use. Thanks for your listening. Eliz from KS
August 6th, 2008 at 10:53 am
They still making cigarettes, don’t they? It doesn’t stopped them. You can’t stopped the hearing parents. But I would agreed to bust AGBell that put down on ASL, I would agreed. Just remember hearing parents has the rights before you. The people who smoke has the rights to smoke before you. We complained against the cigarette because of our health insurance shot up that we don’t smoke. Big different! AGBell need to stopped against the ASL or do they need to educated?
August 6th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Food for thought. Thank you for giving us something to think about.
August 6th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Hi Brenster,
Yes your comment makes sense to me. It is all about Deaf babies’ best interests to use bilingualism. It is our job to promote resources and opportunities to parents about Bilingualism. Yes parents are very important part of Deaf babies’ life. No question about that. I am parent of my two children and I understand it perfectly well. Thanks for making good point!
Hi Eliz,
Thanks for bringing up your issue about hearing babies to use ASL. Like myself, I am a Deaf parent of two hearing children. Yes I understand that very well. Very common for many parents. Perhaps CODA (Children of Deaf Adults) may be able to share resources. I am not sure if there is any formal organization. Anyone know about that? Please share that with us all. Thanks for bringing up your comment.
Hi Steve,
Yes they are still making cigarettes until last smoker on earth stop smoking. Yes parents only ones who make the final decision after they review resources and opportunities. I still believe that children deserve the best opportunities by having Bilingualism. We need to emphasize on parents and it is up to them and it is their responsibility to make final decision but we are also responsible to promote ASL/Bilingualism for Deaf babies and parents and to fight against anti ASL/Bilingual methods and AGBell.
Deafchip
August 6th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Great Post!
Karen: I disagree with HPDBC. I like DBC. I do not see HPAGB so it is ok to use DBC without HP. :o) It is same thing with AGB which at end, it is always hearing parents final say. Why pick on DBC while it is ok for AGBELL to promote the awareness of AVT to the parents?
Aidan
August 6th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Folks talk too much behind keyboards/webcams. Why not set up another DBC? Same name, hmm! Oh, it’s the Deaf Barry Coalition! Cig butts, LOL.
August 6th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Very good post! Thanks for sharing this. I hope we all will work in our own ways and in our own communities to spread the message of DBC to hearing parents before they get the fancy resources and literature from AGBell mulit-million dollar PR company. DBC is very young and needs everyone working together right now especially.
August 6th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Deafchip,
Excellent Post!
DBC already formed hearing/deaf parent group last winter and these parents will be speaking to groups about bilingual for all babies. There are many other ideas that DBC have already started since last winter.
More announcement will be made after the group leaders get together after a year long planning of the successful conference at Milwaukee.
Keep up your brilliant ideas!
John
August 6th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
drmzz: LOL– I love your sense of humor…
August 6th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Webmaster-If C.I. success then what can you do? Destroyed the C.I. for no reason? All I am saying to approach careful with the hearing parents. The more you exposed on ASL the more the AGBell choking! There are successful doctors who operated on C.I. so does abortion doctors. They will kill you to keep quiet. Law are always on Doctors’ side. Don’t they? You know there is cure for cancer that Doctors doesn’t want you to know. Essiac tea cures, not chemo, nor radiation. They are hiding cure so does ASL. Tell me can you make a person to stop smoking right away, just be honest!
August 6th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Adian
You realize you are one of DeafHood militants. Back off! We need to focus on hearing parents/guardians of deaf children and educate them that there IS ASL other than cued speech, oralism, AVT, cochlear implants, and so on. It’s no use to fight against AGBell as that association has been around for years and years. AGBell won’t go away. Oralism, cued speech, cochlear implants, AVT, etc., are here to stay, period. The only way to resolve this issue is to not only accept what is going on, but reach out to hearing parents/guardians of deaf babies and toddlers, and teach them our ASL. THAT is what DBC’s mission is about, but with Deafhood in the way, it is no longer their mission. Hearing parents/guardians DO have the last say in this matter. When offered a list of communication methods, they have a right to pick whichever they feel is best for their children, unfortunately for us. ASL CANNOT BE FORCED upon anyone. Just pray and hope those parents/ guardians will choose ASL over those methods. If not, rest assured they will face sad consequences in the future when their children grow up and realize they are missing out ASL. They will eventually curse their parents/guardians out.
August 6th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Aidan, watch for my upcoming vlog if DR has a sense of humor to post it. I laughed so hard of your “talk the walk” vlog last night so you inspired me, grin.
August 6th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Hi Observer,
Food for thought is good. Let us think and then decide to agree or disagree or even bring up a new idea.
Hi Aidan,
Thanks and I share your view about the name. I think DBC is good as a movement. I think DBC should remain as long as it is needed. Always enjoy watching your vlogs!
Hi drmzz,
Snickering!
Hi A Big Fan of DBC,
Thanks and yes you are definitely right about spreading the message of DBC to parents about their beloved Deaf babies. They need far more than just an idea of “OPTIONS”. I would rather to use the term of “OPPORTUNITIES” that I believe belongs to parents and their Deaf babies. Yes about Milwaukee convention that is still CHAMP!
Hi John,
Thanks for your kind comment. I do look forward to many more announcements. DBC is still CHAMP! Nothing more nothing less after just less than a year. That is way beyond anything I have ever seen in Deaf world! It is sad that a few people have tried to pull it down at any cost. That really disappoints me dearly.
Hi Steve again,
I am not sure what you are trying to say. All of people have different views on CI. That is normal and we agree that we should focus on Bilingualism/ASL that is for all Deaf babies/children (with or without CI). We strongly encourage parents to allow their children two lanugages, ASL and English.
Deafchip
August 6th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
I do see your point Deafchip, how would you approached hearing parents with deaf babies?
August 6th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Thanks, karen mayes about the DVTV
August 6th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Well, the fact that around 95% of deaf babies is born to the hearing parents remain and we need to take their emotional and comfort levels into consideration. We need to remember who the target audience should be… not only deaf adults who have bad memories of oral approach.
Thanks.
August 6th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Hi David,
I find that the proposal Teri Senitel has made on Barry’s video, http://www.deafvideo.tv/video/watch/21738/ should be considered. To see the proposal, you may view Teri’s videos numbered #70, #73, and #75. Comments “1, #10, and #67 are also recommendable for reading.
In view of the dwindling number of students at Gallaudet, the proposal is quite helpful. It may lead hearing parents to end up sending their deaf children to Gallaudet University or the NTID-RID.
Also, someone has proposed that the DBC be under the NAD instead of CAD. This is a good proposal for a plethora of reasons well known to the Deaf Commuinity.
Hearing parents in America are known as monolongial or semi-monolingual. What I want to see is bilingualism, or even trilingualism (Spanish, for that matter) amongst deaf Americans. That should happen during the Generation Y.
Jean Boutcher
August 6th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Hi Steve again,
That is why more and more people are setting up new DBC chapters in USA and Canada and even the world. 700 people went to DBC convention to learn how to provide appropriate information (such as go to Deaf Infant Hearing Program to put Bilingaul resources in offices and even doctors office and many other things as well as helping set up new Parents association.) There are so many things to do and 700 people is just a start and then in the near future, we hope we will see more and more parents get full information and resources about Bilingualism and general Deaf resources. We cannot do everything in one night. We can do that gradually and we can learn many new ideas at the same time to improve access to parents. It is not easy but we must work hard. We also keep our approach to AGBell to attract more parents.
Hi Karen,
Yes I am very much aware of that. I have been involved in my work as a manager. Many of them are not aware of many things including Bilingualism. Most of them already got advices from their doctors and medical institution even before they realize there are many more information out there. They already met with me and they are very concerned about procedures that they feel are unfair to parents. They also feel that medical approach is someway taking away parents’ right to know more about Bilingaulism. DBC has never targeted Deaf adults. I am not sure why you brought that up. In fact, DBC convention is about education for Deaf people who want to be future ASL/Bilingual consultants/advocates and they need to learn many information and collect resources about facts and documents. They need to learn how to approach parents properly and professionally. If no DBC convention, how can we start? It makes sense that it takes time to build up resources and set up chapters to attract parents. There are far over 70 percent of Deaf popultation has negative oralism experiences in any degree. I am the one who has no negative experiece but at the same time I started learning ASL in my age of 2 years, thanks to my Deaf sister. Others do not have that kind of opportunity. So it is time to prevent any further problems by providing all information to parents as early as 1 second old of Deaf baby (just expression). Let them see all the oppportunities rather than options. Yes some are happy being oralists, no question about that. Future babies can grow up and decide to be oralists or auralists after they are given opportunities of two languages. Parents are needed to be informed about that.
Thanks
Deafchip
August 6th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
DeafChip ~ Excellent job! I appreciate your insightful analogy. It is interesting to read some of the comments where people expect DBC to take care of everything. The truth is that it takes a village to raise a child. It means from Deaf/ hearing parents to Infant/ Preschool programs to NAD, DBC, WFD, etc.
Margaret ~ Don’t you ever dare to tell Aidan to back off! She is wearing her ‘Militant’ label with pride! Get used to it! And I am sorry you’ve been grossly misinformed about the concept of Deafhood.
August 6th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Hi Deafchip: This is a good vlog and totally agree that we can promote the Deaf Bilingualism in a positive light. Your other vlogs about your experiences at the DBC conventions are very enlightening… glad to see that you enjoyed the DBC convention. Makes me wonder about this: did you attend to the DCC in Calgary 2 weeks go? It was a good conference as well.
August 6th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Margaret,
I am not sure why you have accused Aidan as Deafhood militant. Deafhood is all part of us. We cannot separate that from us. It is not possible as part of reality. Can you imagine that medicalhood is very much part of AGBell and it has used that to educate them how to deal with their own children. Why can’t we provide all inforamtion about ASL, Culture, Deafhood, Histories, Schools, Bilingualism and many other Deaf information to be shared with parents. Let them learn and understand as much as possible. I do not believe in reducing or withhelding informtion from parents. Parents would be very upset if DBC did withheld info from them.
Thanks
Deafchip
August 6th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Thanks, Deafchip, for an eloquent, elegant comparison! Parents need to know that they have a choice WITH their child, but there can be no choice unless all methods are started and the best one eventually found after trials.
August 6th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
I wanted to share the quote that I read just this morning and it stated, “An education is a birthright of every child.” So I thought the very same goes to every deaf baby. “American Sign Language is a birthright of every Deaf child!”
August 6th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Again, I do see your point Deafchip and agreed with you as we had enough is enough with AGBell being brainwash people. I have not heard your answer yet on this part. How would you approached hearing parents with deaf babies?
August 6th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
DRMZZ,
Yes, you’re right I was sitting behind the keyboard in DV.TV but I also emailed to foundations and health systems.
Karen and Brian Mayes,
Can we have a lunch this week to discuss about this venture?You may be surprised that I live in Noblesville, IN.
Ecnarb (Brance Long)
The tsunami is coming…
August 6th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Hi SDA,
Thanks for your response! You are perfectly right about taking a village to raise a child! All of us to work together. Yes we are aware that DBC cannot do everything. It is just a baby who is trying to crawl but people have made fun of it by push two hands from floor and cause baby’s face hit on floor occasionally but the baby won’t give up and keep moving on.
Hi Arista,
I almost made a plan to DDC in Calgary but unfortunately I did not make it due to other commitments. I regreted that I did not go there but next time I will attend DDC in a couple of years from now. Thanks again for your support.
Hi Dianrez,
Thanks for your response and you said it all. Parents need to get involved in Bilingualism, they will understand. In Chinese proverb, people who hear, they forget. People who see, they remember. People who get involved, they understand.
Hi Jill,
Yup, I love your comment, American Sign Language is a birthright of every Deaf child. We need to educate parents that ASL is a borthright of every Deaf child so that they will understand why it is important for them to use ASL and Bilingualism to prepare them in both worlds. They can pick one or both when they grow up with their own confidence. Parents will never feel any regrets.
Deafchip
August 6th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
That ought to put the “warning label” on the AGBell website and cochlear implant device like
“WARNING - USE OF LIMITED SPEECH ABILITIES WILL DEPRIEVE DEAF CHILDREN FROM ACQUIRING THE NECESSITY OF LANGUAGE. SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT. THE RESPECTABLE RESEARCHES OVER YEARS PROVED THAT DEAF CHILD USE AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE OR ANY VISUAL COMMUNICATION TO BE FOUND “WELL-ADJUSTED AND EMOTIONALLY RATIONAL DEAF CHILD THAN ANYONE, WHO SUBJECT TO THE UNWORKABLE SPEECH AND HEARING TRAINING”
ASLize yours,
Robert L. Mason (RLM)
RLMDEAF blog
August 6th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
I forget to include “….. AND INTELLECTUALLY-ABLE DEAF CHILD” after EMOTIONALLY RATIONAL …
RLM
August 6th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I should say “USE OF EXCLUSIVE SPEECH AND HEARING ADJUSTMENT TRAINING, INSTEAD OF LARGELY FOCUSED ON NECESSITY OF LANGUAGE DEVELOPMENT TO WRITE AND READ AND THINK INDEPENDENTLY WITHIN DEAF CHILD HIRSELF”
RLM
August 6th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Deafchip, I agree with you. So many good ideas to implement in short period of time that some people either have high expectations or no patience at all. Conflicts are a given. This DBC baby is still crawling for goodness sake. Don’t expect it capable of running a marathon yet.
Margaret: “Just pray and hope those parents/ guardians will choose ASL over those methods.” Sorry to say, this reeks of apathy and conformity. I see nothing wrong to inform others that there is much more than AVT, et. for Deaf children. After all, many of us LIVED THRU THIS HEARING-SPEECH PROCESS from our infancy ourselves. Hearing people only think of their “should’s.” We have a right to educate others as well. Deafhood leads to ownership of self not via others. Like the proponents of Afrocentrism, they do not conform to White Europeans’ interpretation of history but only through the black individual’s own phenomena!
Jill, nice quote!
Opps, I had meant, “Walk the talk.”
August 6th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
DeafChip
Deafhood is part of us all, yes, but it shouldn’t be mixed with DBC. DBC’s purpose is to educate parents, guardians, doctors, teachers, audiologists, surgeons, and so on, that there IS ASL, and it should be part of options, or like you said earlier, opportunities for parents/guardians to choose for their deaf and/or hard of hearing infants and young children. Deafhood is within each deaf individual, recognizing and accepting that each of us is deaf and damn proud of it. It is about each of YOU. Now tell me, what does Deafhood have to do with DBC?? From what I read here at DR, those affiliated with Deafhood is more about Deaf, ASL, Deaf, ASL, Deaf, ASL, Deaf, ASL, Deaf, ASL, Deaf… Gimme a break! They are SO against cochlear implants, oralism, cued speech, AVT, etc. I thought DBC wasn’t against those, but now I realize DBC is. That is why I felt their mission has changed.
Sorry, folks, you can’t get rid of CI, oralism, cued speech, AVT, etc. They are here to stay. Deaf people need to work WITH hearing people, not AGAINST them.
August 6th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Hi,
Of course, the saying goes, “it is the parent’s decision”, I’m getting tired of this statement, it makes us feel as if we are children and don’t understand what we are aiming for. Please refrain from saying this, it is getting on my nerves and we are too smart for this.
Let me say my piece:
Supposedly if there was a hearing child who had cerebal palsy and her parents wanted her to be in a wheelchair, they did not encourage her to learn how to walk or be toliet trained as it was easier to keep her confined in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. Then when the child grows up, she is forever hindered by the wheelchair when she could have learned how to walk and be toliet trained and forthcoming independent and she is finding it very difficult to learn those basic skills such as walking or whatever. I’ve seen it happen in real life. Same thing with hearing parents who push their deaf child to talk and the deaf child is literally struggling and struggling to learn how to talk without any much success.
I’m tired of hearing the talk that it is a parent choice, of course we are not dumbwits, we know that, the point is that parents sometimes need to be guided and encouraged and to be pushed into helping their child succeed instead of being so “hands-off” and then in the future, the child is very disappointed that he/she didn’t learn sign language earlier, their socialization was deprieved, and all that. You see, we need to work on improving the rights and plights of a deaf child as we are seeing so many of them grow into adults feeling resentful and angry at the system that failed them. Just like the child actors who were basically left on their own to their devices such as overspending, growing up way too fast, getting involved in drugs and all that. Now there is an movement led by an ex-child actor (I forgot his name)towards to the movie industry and parents to make sure that today child actors/actresses do not fall into the trap and to grow in a healthy and safe environment.
There are times when we need to intervene and to provide education/empowerment to parents. It is not fair to a child when parents are left to their own in making decisions that could have devastating results to the child.
August 6th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
DeafChip –
Good analogy!
For those people who say AGB is too big to mess with, DeafChip used Big Tobacco as a comparison — they are even BIGGER than AGB, and yet they were able to be cut down a little bit. Yes, people still have the right to buy and smoke cigarettes, but if you notice, in more and more places, they don’t have the right to poison the rest of us with their stinky fumes. And Big Tobacco is not allowed to market to kids anymore. And they have to provide truthful education about what they sell. Hopefully soon enough nobody will think it is worth it to buy cigarettes anymore and Big Tobacco will go out of business.
Same with AGB. If we focus on how they are POISONING and “killing” our Deaf children and our community, soon enough we may be able to force them to stop or at least change their ways so that ALL of us can come out healthy, TRULY INDEPENDENT, literate adults! Hearing parents don’t want to see their children grow up “stunted” in any way — if we provide them with the education that they need so they can make the INFORMED choice about what works BEST with their children, they WILL make those choices. But when they’re continually DENIED access to that information, HOW can they make that informed choice?
Let’s topple the AGB giant!
August 6th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Hi RLM,
Interesting about your dicsussion regarding warning label. It would be neat if AVT method should be slammed with warning label that it has NO guarentee at all. Oh you had added some more comments. That is fine. Thanks for sharing your comments with us.
Hi Drmzz,
Yeah, thats right. DBC is only a baby. No wonder nobody likes DEAF DBC baby and makes fun of it. It is sad. DBC does a great job and I am very much sure it will grow into a very healthy organization to combat roots of evil and to promote healhty approach for Deaf babies and parents.
Hi Margaret again,
ASL is a language that we want to educate parents and govenrment agencies. We must remember that language always includes cultures and histories. We cannot exclude that. Parents will ask more about language and its background. We must answer that to parents. If not, then parents would say what is the point about ASL that nobody know how to answer. Parents may ask for information about Deafhood, we have to provide them information about Deafhood. We cannot deny their request. DBC can refer them to Deafhood for more further information. We have to be ready for everything then parents will appreciate very much. About cued speech, CI, oralism, and others, DBC does not involve that at all, DBC only focus on ASL and Bilingualism. CI, oralism and others have nothing to do with DBC. DBC encourages parents to have their babies/children with or without CI learn ASL/Bilingualism (including English). Remember oralism, cued speech, Signed English and others are part of English Language.
Hi Children’s Right Wing,
Yes you are right. Many parents tend to make decision with lack of information. They are misguided by AGBell and its allies. They tend to be first victims of AGBell and then their children are the next victims. Parents have their rights to make decision is a HUGE value in USA and Canada. It is very tough part that we are facing. Your arguement is very good and well taken. Many parents tend to give up their hope because they get a very limited information. That is a big problem we are facing now. I believe DBC needs to expose AGBell to the world for its irresponsible action toward parents and their children for centuries.
Hi Don
Yes, we can do anything no matter how big or how small it is. We must keep going until we meet our target. Small anti smoking movements can overcome billion of dollars smoking corporates. Awareness is more powerful than money itself.
Hi Steve again,
It is hard for me to explain in this written comment. I do my best to write.
1. set up resources at every place in medical institution (hospitals, governments, doctors’ offices, clinics, schools, and others.
2. parents read resources and find a list of contact
3. parents contact me via a list of contact.
4. set up a meeting with parents
5. introduce myself and meeting with parents (with an interrpeter)
6. let them express their frustration and experience to me
7. understand their desire and goal for their own Deaf child
8. explain basic information about ASL/Bilingualim to parents
9. explain why it is important for their child.
10. parents might ask some more information other than ASL such as history, culture, even deafhood, etc, I would be prepared to give them basic answers
11. I can provide them a list of references that they need to learn from.
12. encourage them to attend a parent group that I would be involved to maintain discussion and welcome them at any time to make sure they feel comfortable.
13. if they decide to have their child to learn ASL, they can be provided with ASL consultants.
14. from that and on.
Deafchip
August 7th, 2008 at 2:18 am
ASL/English seems to sound better? instead of ASL/Bilingualim.
Come on . . . we the Deaf need to understand the fact that we are to survive in the Hearing world, period. We need to tone down and to play it cool and convince them that we the Deaf are fun, etc. Thus ASL shall come into a bigger picture.
August 7th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Deafchip,
Thank you, from what I saw you and Barry saying the same thing and nothing opposite! You didn’t say force hearing parents to educated ASL on deaf babies same as Barry. You emphazing on ASL for deaf babies very much same as Barry. Nothing opposite. You didn’t say rally and marching to stop the hearing parents and take away deaf babies same as Barry. Still no opposite. People need to stop and make the rules clear and loud like you say above the comments. We just need some RULES to guide us not from our mouthing that mislead. Thanks again Deafchip and Barry. Well together.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Hi Sir William
English is everywhere in the USA and most of Canada, all parents know English. We just emphasize ASL to parents that ASL is a language and we also emphasize parents about Bilingualism too. They dont have to learn about English because they already know. Just common sense.
Hi Steven again!
I am honoured that Barry and I believe in the same cause.
Did you know that:
I invented the slogan “AGBell: Tear Down The Wall”.
I was involved in positive DBC rally in front of AGBell convention.
I was involved in DBC convention to welcome parents.
I found that DBC core team is a great team and worked with us equally.
DBC core members, members and I believe all parents deserve to know all information about ASL/Bilingaulism first and then other items such as culture, deafhood, history, etc., when they are ready to discuss.
DBC core members, members and I oppose the idea that AGBell encourage parents to pick one option of strict AVT.
We believe parents have every right to know all information about Bilingaulism/ASL and many other resources such as ASL, Culture, History, Deafhood, etc., if they want to learn more.
We do not believe in restricting information on anything. They deserve to know all facts.
Thanks
Deafchip
August 7th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Steve,
Have you met Deafchip and Barry yet?
They both a totally different, Deafchip got a heart for deaf babies, while Barry is all about himself using DBC and deaf babies to boost his ego.
August 11th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Same as Barry say about what you thought, Deafchip. My question is can you stop the hearing parents on choosing their choice if all is failed at your desired?
Chris, I do met them, you talked like you’re boost your ego as well. Barry doesn’t show any ego but to protect your carerless actions.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
It is parents’ final decision after they get resources and opportunities. That is what DBC is all about.
Deafchip
August 12th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
That what Barry intending to do so. Same stories on both sides.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Then why DBC has been attacked mercilessly. I find that hard to fathom. That is why I am very concerned is that Deaf babies are actually victims overall. I pray that we can unite for the best interested of Deaf babies and their parents. They have plenty of opportunities….
Deafchip