Being gone for two and half weeks is a long time to be away from the blogosphere. It’s nearly impossible for me to catch up with everything that’s taken place. What is clear is that a lot of former DBC members are unhappy with what DBC’s done, and things have turned nasty as a result.
I’m not going to say very much on this subject, because others have made quite eloquent statements that I can’t really add to, except that I agree with them, such as Anne Marie, Amy Cohen Efron and MishkaZena. I can vouch for what they have said on the v/blogs, as I was a witness to what happened to them when they were in DBC’s core group. They are great people, extremely credible, and I think it is a disservice that there are certain individuals trying to drag them down, when they are trying to tell the truth in hopes of making DBC a better organization.
Being told the truth isn’t always easy. It can be often raw and painful to swallow. Right now at this moment, I think it’s pretty safe to say that the Deaf Community is reeling in shock from Barry, Amy, MZ and Anne Marie’s revelations. I hope we as a community are able to come to terms with this, and begin to discuss the questions of, “What now?” and “How do we ensure something like this doesn’t happen again?” If we don’t do that, then all of this controversy would be for nothing.
DeafRead is a place where we can hold that dialogue. For it to be successful though, it’ll require being able to face the truth head-on, and respectfully come to terms with it. That will also require a critical mass of us as well. I consider DeafRead as a virtual cafe where we all can meet and debate those issues that impact our community. People will come and go, but there are regulars who will always stay, and that’s what makes DeafRead such a great place to visit. But sometimes the regulars step out for a while, to face and deal with their own personal truths.
And so, I am stepping out for a while, because it needs to be done. By no means is this permanent - I will be back. This is a great place to make a difference, and that’s something I’ve always wanted to do. But sometimes, to be able to make a difference for others, you gotta make a difference for yourself first.
I wish you all good luck, and I will still be watching what’s taking place. Be well.
Yours truly,
A Deaf Pundit
July 23, 2008 at 11:59 am
DP, I, of course, wish you the best in your personal journey.
I, however, CANNOT agree with your assessment of the situation, I, and many others, are reeling from the shock of how ugly things have become. The ugliness of a man hell-bent on a personal vendetta is a terrible thing to behold.
Constructive criticism of DBC is one thing (and that’s never a bad thing), but what Barry Sewell did and how he did it is absolutely appalling. The people you listed above may have had constructive things to say, but they gave that man a platform to spew violence.
So, no, I’m not reeling at the “truths,” I’m reling at what Sewell has done and how others enabled it.
July 23, 2008 at 12:32 pm
I agree with Observer.
I’m not reeling at the “truths” or at the constructive criticism offered by people either. But when destructive criticisms are flung and unethical things are done, it does leave people in a state of shock and outrage.
July 23, 2008 at 12:38 pm
observer; interesting use of words… Violence? Ugliness? Hell-bent on a personal vendetta? “truths”?
It is my observation that what Barry did was very fair. He’s a godsend because he’s not afraid of people like you. I’d rather have all the cards on the table than none at all like your recent comment which hasn’t give reason or support to your claims. If anything, you may be more pissed at the fact that he went angst the grain and you dont have much to say except how he did it.
July 23, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Sorry, Dog Food.
Barry has no credibility.
July 23, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Anon,
Amusing. No credibility? Please explain why you think Barry’s input holds no water.
July 23, 2008 at 12:51 pm
How did DBC manage to create so many enemies, especially with those who got so much to offer. DBC needs to turn a new leaf. It is. easy to point fingers. The fact remains that the responsiblity lies with DBC to stop pointing fingers,publicly or anonymously, and start engaging in dialogue with those who expressed. painful feedback. DBC current core members need to shift their reactions to the harshest critics and accept them as rewarding input for organizational growth. I see DeafRead as a cyber townhall where Gallaudet, NAD, AGBell, and DBC can attain access to feedback of all kinds- the good, the bad and the ugly-the pulse of our amazing Deaf America.
Prayers for all of us to hold one another in spirit dearly.
July 23, 2008 at 12:52 pm
What really bothers me is when I tried to leave comments at Ben’s recent blog and Barry’s, too, they won’t even approve my comments. I did not insult anyone or use profanity. I feel they are using their blogs to control information. I am not comfortable with that at all. I tried to tell them that I don’t understand they complained about DBC doing 22 minutes of thanking people, but ben, barry, amy, etc had no problem wasting many of THEIR minutes (definitely more than 22 minutes)making blogs and vlogs about DBC. If they think DBC is a lousy organization, why can’t they use their precious 22 minutes or more doing something positive. DBC obviously has a lot of POWER over these people or they wouldn’t waste their time blogging about them! We are really getting tired of reading blogs from people like them…and now you. When will this stop? ASL Think Tank does not seem to make a position on CIs on their blog. I challenge them to MAKE a position and say they are PRO CI or something! DBC does not want to make a position because it is not about CI!!! It is about ASL for Deaf children!
July 23, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Dog Food, Since they don’t like the truth, they do a smear campaign against those who speak the truth.
Their actions are strange.
July 23, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Deaf Reader; the interesting thing about your feedback on this matter is that you’re including Cochlear Implants. The amusing fact about this whole fiasco is that it has NOTHING to do with implants at all.
“ASL Think Tank” is obviously about bilingualism which marries all aspect of communication.
and, deaf reader… The current DBC leaders hasn’t lifted a finger to tell you about their thoughts or stance on this matter at all for almost a month. Please tell me why you think they care about you and our community’s thoughts to say anything at all.
July 23, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Hey hey, they are not against CI but ASL helps the baby to talk, not CI yet. Nothing wrong with CI or Oral as they say. Right now they are focus on baby who is deaf and (my opinion hearing baby) as well to learn ASL to help babies talk. Then later in stages, it is up to the parents or whichever decided for the best of CI or Oral or Cued Speech, etc, etc. DBC doesn’t care what you want in the later stages. DBC knew the baby can talk not in oral or CI yet but ASL yes. So we can have our precisely babies can talk or hear. You missed out alot.
July 23, 2008 at 1:10 pm
A Deaf Reader –
Dog food is right, why do you think DBC cares, they don’t post what we suggest to them either even when we are sweet as pie with them?
I think that is the biggest beef everyone who has common sense has with them. They just will not speak up and say a damn thing and leaves us all hanging. They are an organization that has deaf babies in their care and acting like this scares the hell out of me!
July 23, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Steve,
Wonderful thoughts; congratulations for being the first person to make a note about the real goal: babies.
Now can you tell me where Bilingualism fits in your comment?
July 23, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Anonymous, you say I have no credibility. Perhaps so because I’m not politically influenced by anybody. If that’s your definition of no credibility then I agree. A person with credibility are oftentimes a person without backbone. And you love to lecture on credibility but yet logged in as an anonymous icon, an indication of zero credibility. It can’t get any worse than that. Now you see why I always say, words are like mirrors, a reflection of self. Bask into this wisdom and it’ll serve you well.
Deaf Reader,
I rejected your comment because you did not identify your sources. You did not identify the source of definition you used. I based my information on Merriam Webster but could not confirm your information. And worse yet, you signed in as anonymous therefore your biased input had zero credibility.
Next time you post in my blogs, show some credibility and quote your sources. Otherwise it will not stand in front of my source, which happened to be Merriam Webster.
July 23, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Brian,
A note I want to add that I think is painfully obvious… Where are the deaf babies?
Almost all of the clientele that went to the DBC convention were not hearing parents but the signing community who can be customers of the Deafhood movement. Everyone who made vlogs/blogs about the DBC convention… you all learned a lot about Deafhood and what it means to be Deaf. I fail to see how hearing parents of newly born deaf children benefit from their event as their native language is… English.
So they had a handful of parents that came, big deal. It was wonderful for them to see our little community and the passion that arises from it. I doubt they were able to see where their English language fit in the world of ASL and Deafhood.
July 23, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Deaf Pundit,
I apologize for my bad manners. I should have addressed your comments first. I wanted to thank you for taking the time to post a blog and communicate with us. I know we all will respect your decision to withdraw and take care of your personal matters. We all need to step back from time to time and observe things from the outside. It’s healthy. I am happy you’re doing it. We all need to take care of ourselves in order to be productive citizens.
Warmest Regards,
Barry
July 23, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Dog food,
Now can you tell me where Bilingualism fits in your comment?
Bilingualism fits for the babies to become of what of the choices! Right?
July 23, 2008 at 1:29 pm
Deaf Reader,
Strange that you mention ‘DBC does not want to make a position because it is not about CI!!! It is about ASL for Deaf children!’
DBC constantly talks about audism, deficit thinkers, colonialism, audism behind cochlear implants and oralism within the inner core team, media, and on the Internet. These topics are interesting and thought provoking, though these aren’t mentioned in the mission statement. Hence the confusion for the hearing parents. I think it’ll benefit them a lot if they get more information on these topics.
About ASLTT, none of us discussed about cochlear implants within the group, not that I could think of as we discussed about bilingualism only. I don’t even know what the other members’ stances on cochlear implants are, except one and only because she discussed it personally with me outside of the group.
My stance on cochlear implants: It’s up to the parents to decide and I hope whatever the parents decide, it’ll turn out to be the best for their child. I don’t know enough about cochlear implants to form an opinion yet. However, the lack of transparency with the C.I. field is obvious and the parents not having enough data to make an informed decision concerns me.
July 23, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Steve,
I’m not the one talking about babies. You’re telling me that ASL helps babies to talk, you’re telling me that parents will have choices.
And how will they have choices? Through english language which is a part of bilingualism when married with ASL.
I’m not surprised that I have to be the one to remind you that English is just as important as ASL.
July 23, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Barry, is right, I should have told you, Deaf Pundit, good blog! Keep it up! I always like reading/hearing what you have to say!
July 23, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Deaf Pundit, thank you for your post acknowledging that we all speak the truth, based on your personal experiences.
July 23, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Dr Hoko “You did not identify the source of definition you used.”.
Huh? What definition did I use? You have no problem approving other people who didnt use their real names. Double standards. I like Deaf Pundit better because she does not control comments even though I don’t agree with her blog.
Dog Food I included CI because it is irksome that people are pestering DBC to form a position on CI while they are not bothering to ask the same from ASL Think Tank people. Hypocrites! If you demand DBC to form a position, please demand the same from ASL Think Tank people. I know some people from ASL Think Tank and I know their positions on CI. They are not honest. Like Aidan says, they need to come CLEAN especially when they are badmouthing DBC.
July 23, 2008 at 3:37 pm
Look at the number of comments at Dr Hoko’s blogs/vlogs. Not much! People are learning things about him and have no respect for him and his approach to problem-solving. He only has few followers who are not able to see things clearly. You can basically count followers with less than two hands.
MZ ASL Think Tank is not very active. Not much comments there, too. It is basically one woman show discussing her own sons all the time. Unprofessional and nothing else! Did ASL Think Tank work with media? I’d like to see articles in newspapers that talk about ASL Think Tank and what they do for the Deaf community. Nothing so far. I’d like to see a conference from them.
July 23, 2008 at 3:48 pm
The reason ASL Think Tank isn’t very active is because we’re all very busy with other things, and we want to keep a high standard for the site. Hopefully soon though, there will be more articles.
And to clarify, ASL TT isn’t an organization. It’s just an information clearinghouse on ASL. That’s all it is. We focus on ASL, and topics related to ASL. That’s why you’re not going to see CIs be discussed on that site.
Furthermore, ASL TT *was* mentioned in many places. Michigan Deaf Association published the fact sheet in their newsletter, for instance. Word is slowly getting out there.
As for Barry being unethical, I would like to know what was unethical about his conduct. While I don’t like the idea of posting AIM SNs and email addresses, I can understand why he did that… otherwise people would question the veracity of those documents.
July 23, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Deaf Reader, ASLTT isn’t an organization, but a clearinghouse informative site. The site is well received by the readers who share the information with the teachers and the parents. This is not designed to be an active advocacy organization nor is it a replacement for DBC, in case people are thinking of that. There are also no hidden agenda.
July 23, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Dog food,
Forgive me for not getting what you mean? Using the ASL first to develop communications, before you do the english to the deaf or hearing babies. Because the babies’ vocal are not ready to used. Make sense? So my guess Bilingualism are for adults?
July 23, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Yes, Dr Hokocan published the AIM because people told him to show the proof or shut up.
July 23, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Mishkazen
“Yes, Dr Hokocan published the AIM because people told him to show the proof or shut up.”
Where did you get information from Dr Hokocan?
July 23, 2008 at 4:41 pm
FYI, everyone on ATT is on the same page about CI, it is simply a hearing device like hearing aid that work well for some children to acquire spoken language. Also it work well for many adults who lost a lot of hearing. Only that we wish it does not have to be that invasive and risky.
I personally am not too crazy about CI and we will not implant our second son (70 db - 95 db in both ears) while he has solid language base with ASL and is showing benefits from high digital aids with creative speech - auditory sessions in our house and also at my university department.
We are all for options with emphasis for ASL that is fully accessible to everyone and rather to keep focused on this.
Yes unfortunately everyone on ATT has been so busy. To write an article takes us about a week with checking for research references and several turn around making sure that it is well written of high quality, something that anyone especially parents can print them out for their children’s IEP, evaluation, and case that require making decisions.
One parent mentioned that he was able to use the factsheet to convince his school IEP team (3rd attempt) to make decision on school placement. He really thanked us for that.
July 23, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Chris, H, I didn’t get the information from Dr Hocokan. Several of my skeptical readers challenged him in the comment section of my blog.
July 23, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Deaf Pundit,
Good posting… gentle and at the same time firm in acknowledging the former DBC core members’ coming out with truth.
Enjoy your summer :o)
July 23, 2008 at 5:11 pm
DP
I know it won’t be easy for you telling the truth.
As for comment #22, “As for Barry being unethical, I would like to know what was unethical about his conduct. While I don’t like the idea of posting AIM SNs and email addresses, I can understand why he did that..otherwise people would question the veracity of those documents.”
Well, I think you must have missed the thrill news on the day of MishkaZena’s revelation in her blog. I looked into the DBC Fact’s blog along with the critical evidences because Dr. Hocokan persuaded DBC’s original Core members to apologize to the public. However, they refused to apologize. It was too late for them to do so. The reason why he had no choice for posting the AIM to the public.
Dr. Hocokan attempted to protect and restore the entire “deaf-diversity” community’s reputation. I think He did the right thing before it gets worse later.
Come back, DP…..be well before you get here. I believe in you,
July 23, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Mishkazen
Thank for your honest.
July 23, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Where is my comment to Anne Marie Baer? I want to say how much I appreciate her honesty - for saying that she is not crazy about CI. Why is it deleted?
July 23, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Like Anne Marie Baer, some DBC members are not crazy about CI. Some of them are ok with CI, but they do not want to make a position. Why can’t we leave DBC members alone just like we leave Anne Marie Baer alone? Some pro-eco people are not crazy about CI because they prefer to go natural and not do invasive surgeries. Some of them prefer vitamins over medications. We should respect them. Why are people after some DBC members who happen to say that they are not crazy about CI.
July 23, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Deaf reader, I think WordPress is having issues, and some comments may be slow in showing up. I am not deleting any comments, and I checked the spam filter after I read #33, didn’t find your comments, but found 2 others that didn’t belong there. They’ve been de-spammed now.
July 23, 2008 at 6:13 pm
What has happened I think, some DBC members had made their positions against CI known in the past and this befuddle the organization’s stance only advocating for bilingualism. I am not 100% sure how it happened.
You may see in my translation of Diane Rez’s opening article that I did sign CI, I really meant regardless anything but ASL is one of two equilvant languages and we are particularly talking about ASL.
We will like to know more about bilingualism for children with CI and hearing aids with good speech comprehension and CODA who happen to rely on spoken English because this is the area we do not know much yet. I am eying for any research with a large number of these kids and good research methods to see how they acquire both languages. Soon if I see a good article comes out, we will definitely write a summary with pointers for lay readers and put a link to the full text if available for everyone.
July 23, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Steve,
Thanks for clarifying your points. I can see now what you were trying to say earlier today.
Hmm, I’m now at a point where I’m not sure what to say but other than that i’m out of my league now because I’m no child language development expert.
Great dialogue, i look forward to continuing developments.
July 23, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Anne Marie Baer, that is what I thought. DBC members already formed their opinions BEFORE DBC happened and people went against them because of their positions. They are being unfair to them. SOme people havent formed their opinions (i.e. MZ) and does that make them better people. No! Give DBC a break! ASL TT does have some members who are not crazy about CI just like DBC has some members who are not crazy about CI
July 23, 2008 at 7:47 pm
I probably read hundreds of blogs already, but what I really want to know what happens in the hospital, when the mother found out their child is Deaf, are there state laws that requires doctors to inform parents of the options of ASL or oral. Whose duty is it, the doctors, or the social worker, or doctor just referred them to the local agency. If it is just referral, maybe the local agency is a strong supporter of the oral approach, the only thing I know is that the federal laws screen babies hearing, what happened after that, any standards, varies by hospitals, or laws varies by states, are doctors neutral, are pamphets readily available at the hospitals, do parents based their decision on fears, or pressures, or who ever reaches them first, we can go on debating this issue forever, but while leaving the parents in the dark.I don’t know the policies of each hospitals, I don’t know if there any state laws in regards to requiring that parents being informed of both options, or it is just referrals, what happening in the maternity ward, I have no idea. Just wondering how the parents make their decision, how are they influenced, who consulted them, etc. that is the question.
July 23, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Here’s something i think you all should read… and even the leaders of DBC wherever they are.
http://valhallian.com/?p=37
This is what i’ve been looking and hoping for a long time. Each time someone bashed or wrote about AGBell, I keep hoping for this. It has now came, and i wonder what we all are going to do about it.
July 23, 2008 at 8:45 pm
deaf read (why don’t you come out? do not worry what others think of your opinion, we respect you and you just ignore others who fret) some of us have been vague about CI and its outcome that we did not quite form strong opinions until we know enough, For me, it has been clear, I knew it works for some people and children that I would not want to take away their privilege to access to spoken language. Like taking away their glasses, pacemaker, whatever. End of the argument. Even it is the end of “colonialism” argument.
What has been happening, some people keep on pressing this concept on CI, AVT, etc without trying to build dialogues with AGBell, professionals, and parents of deaf children. We start seeing these people becoming needlessly hardliners. Give a break? It is how people learn how to frame their arguments, make distinctions and be clear on how humans go through phases of growth and assimilations, whether we like or not, it is inevitable as we make best of it or we get no where.
July 24, 2008 at 6:47 am
Deafread, yes, come out. More people should come out about their position on CI. People are so afraid to say they are not supporting CI for themselves. Many people respect CI users, but do not wish CI on themselves or their children. I wish people can be proud to be Deaf without wanting to be like hearing or feeling that speech is the best way to function in the hearing world. We Deaf people know we can function without spoken English. Barb is one of the excellent role models. It amazes me to see some mothers counting the words their implanted children could speak. Often the words they can speak are a lot less than Deaf children could sign.
July 24, 2008 at 7:46 am
I think that for the most part, people who regularly read my blog already know how I feel about CIs. I just don’t feel the need to be repetitious about how I feel about CIs.
The issue so many of us, and yes, there are many of us, have with DBC is because their comments are really disrespectful and exaggerated. It doesn’t serve any purpose except to inflame the Deaf Community even more against the CI community.
It’s all about how you say it, and the way some are saying certain things, hurts the Deaf Community. And that’s the last thing we need. The community’s basically in triage, yet people continue to do the same things that landed us in triage, pretty much.
July 24, 2008 at 8:12 am
MZ (#29), it’s absurd that you would refer to him as being “Dr. Hocokan.” Where is your credibility? He is not a “Dr.” and you know that.
July 24, 2008 at 8:15 am
Barry has repeatedly stated that it is his middle name. I think people need to get a grip. Am I a deaf pundit offline? Hardly. It’s just a moniker to use online.
July 24, 2008 at 11:41 am
I agree that it’s all about how you say.
Just wanted to wish you well and hope you rest well before going back to school - it’s almost time already!
Hugs,
Iam
July 24, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Anon,
you object me using the person’s middle name? How odd…
July 24, 2008 at 1:01 pm
MZ, if you want to use his middle name, use DR not Dr. A big difference here! Since you are picky about English, I thought I would do the same to you.
July 25, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Hock or even Hoco (Loco) is trying to attack everyone. When will he stop doing this?
July 25, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Diane, and you’re not attacking him by calling him crazy in Spanish? Don’t come back to my blog until you understand the hypocrisy of your own actions.
July 25, 2008 at 7:47 pm
There is a big difference between a DR and a Dr?
Please do tell me what the difference is, though that is a typo.
I’m curious here what the difference is
July 25, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Diane
I don’t see DR Hokocan attacking (happy now, deaf reader, that I’ve corrected a tiny typo which I’ve not even noticed before? smile). So far from what I’ve seen, he has been trying to tell the truth, based on his personal experience since DBC refused to be fully transparent. I’ve affirmed in my posts that it’s my personal experience as well as Deaf Pundit, Amy, Anne Marie, and Dianrez, that DBC had been practicing Deafhood from the beginning. Please do let me know how demanding the truth be revealed to Deaf people an attack? It’s the lack of transparency that is damaging.
Barb is finally acknowledging that DBC does practice Deafhood since DBC feels bilingualism and deafhood overlaps a lot, therefore they cannot be separated. I appreciate Barb validating what I’ve repeatedly stated in my posts. Just because I seek full transparency doesn’t mean I’m attacking DBC as full transparency helps both DBC and the Deaf Community. Other former DBC core members concurred on the importance of full honesty.
July 25, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Oh I’m very sorry .. I am a bit tired of watching Hock’s vlogs — I get confused easily by him. I don’t mean to attack him personally. I no longer watch his vlogs. All I want is to get the correct information directly from DBC organization. I personally think DBC and Deafhood should be separated. One at a time … No Rush! I am not a great writer here. Watch for my vlog (comments in Deafvideo.tv). I don’t have a program to make my own vlogs for the YouTube. Again very sorry if this offends you about the “Hoco” This will not happen again. Personally I am hoping Hockocan will cut down on own his vlogs about DBC. I am sure he is a gentle person. Diane
July 25, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Loco is the word that means crazy in Spanish, not Hoco.
I hope DBC will give correct information to us too.. though I have serious doubts that they ever will.
July 25, 2008 at 11:07 pm
I knew loco is the word that means crazy in Spanish. Me sarcasm — Sorry. I hope DBC will settle down very soon.. a long way to go thou. Thanks.
Diane
July 26, 2008 at 9:19 am
PATTI IS DOING THE WORK OF ELLA.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE DEAF READ FOR STANDING THEIR GROUND.
IN OTHER BLOGS AND BY ISSUING TWO ULTIMATUMS, PATTI TRIED TO MANIPULATE DEAF READ.
WHEN SHE COULD NOT GET HER WAY, SHE PLAYED A LITTLE GIRL AND CALLED IT QUITS TWICE.
SHE TRIED TO REMOVE A BLOG BECAUSE SHE DID NOT LIKE IT. IF IT WAS LIES, THEN WHY BE SO AFRAID? DEAF READ IS NOT ABOUT FAVORISM.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS A RIGHT–DEAF READ TRIES TO EMBODY THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS.
http://blog.deafread.com/pote/2008/07/25/sk-sk-people-of-the-eye-stops-keying/
July 26, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Dr means someone who has a PhD. DR is simply a nickname of Barry!!! I think he tries to pass as someone with a PhD, but someone can see clearly he is not that smart for a real Dr.
July 26, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Deaf Reader,
Please. The Dr/DR thing is completely irrelevant to the DBC situation, and it speaks volumes about you and your ability, or rather, inability to counter his statements regarding DBC, if you are obsessing over such a trivial, petty item.
You have two choices here: Stop making comments here about the DR/Dr thing and go away, or stop making comments about the DR/Dr thing, and ADDRESS what Barry has to say.
July 27, 2008 at 2:20 pm
If nitpicking about the DR/Dr name is the best a DBC representative can do, it reflects the truth. They know they cannot dispute the statements by the former DBC core members, based on their experiences within the organization.
July 31, 2008 at 4:54 am
Look, Barry has no credential. If you’ll type his name Barry Sewell in Google. you’ll find that he and his brother got into trouble several times. It’s not looking good. Barry clearly is an angry person and we shouldn’t mixed ourselves with him especially since he hasn’t done one thing for the deaf community or deaf babies. I know I am..
Anyone who work with him or listen to hin is wasting his/her time. I’m telling you!
July 31, 2008 at 8:18 am
You and others have told us that repeatedly. Nevertheless, the fact remains that Barry by all accounts, is telling the truth about what happened within DBC during his tenure.
Similar experiences happened to me, Elizabeth, Anne Marie and Amy. Why aren’t we discussing that, and say, “This shouldn’t ever happen again. Let’s make sure it doesn’t.”
But instead we’re getting people like you, running around saying ‘Barry has no credibility! The former core DBC members are bad apples! Don’t listen to them!’
This in essence boils down to people like you saying that Amy Cohen Efron, Anne Marie Baer, Elizabeth Gillespie, Barry Sewell and me are liars and not to believed.
We are not liars. This happened. And if we as a community stand by and do nothing, it’s going to happen to someone else. What good can come out of that?
August 7, 2008 at 12:23 am
hello all people my frist time here i read this barry,s blog and other blog and vlog that dbc six and other some person of member dbc was mess up and not truth tell deaf worth and i think better dbc go close down why that ? 6 leadership no good and wrong time due
August 7, 2008 at 12:28 am
but only two key,s can education hear world
two keys
hey barry send me email i talk to u on vp ok
August 8, 2008 at 12:10 am
i got wrong spell on # 62 not truth tell deaf worth i mean . tell deaf world
remove 62 pls
August 8, 2008 at 12:19 am
hello all people my frist time here i read this barry,s blog and other blog and vlog that dbc six and other some person of member dbc was mess up and not truth tell deaf world and i think better dbc go close down why that ? 6 leadership no good and wrong time due
leadership not have follow,s policy i did read from where is policy ? from dbc? no !!!
I READ FROM DEAFREAD AND DEAFVIDCO.TV FOR LONG TIME I BEEN WATCH ON DEAFREAD FOR 2 YEARS BUT I NOT MEMBER ANY BLOG AND VLOG BUT I LEARN LOTS FROM LAW AND
August 8, 2008 at 12:21 am
AND DBC WANT MORE MONEY DOLLOR FROM ALL DEAF PEOPLE FOR NOTHING
August 9, 2008 at 11:05 am
ago i read from DBC,WEBSIT very good ponit and DBC tell turth but but deaf child need (help ) learn asl and im sorry i not good englist i hope u undersander me? i will buy webcam videc i want joni in deafread and deafvidec.tv i
im sorry i was rude to DBC BUT 3 DEAF LEADERSHIP NOT SHOW UP ON DEAFREAD AND DBC,WEBSIT ON BLOG NOT THERE ON BLOG
ONLY 2 KEY WE CAN FIGHT-CIVIL WITH NEW ADD LAW GOV. FOR EDUCATION TO DR,-DOCTOR TEACHER ASL SCHOOL BUT DOCOTR DIDNT SAY ABOUT ASL? WHY THAT PROMBLE DOCTER STILL LIST TO AGBELL MEMBER AND DEAFCHILD,S PERENT FOLLOW LIST DOCTOR AND AGBELL AND DOCTOE MAKE RICH THAT MAKE ME SICK OF DOCTOR-FAKE
HEY BARRY ABOUT YOU?
I DONT PUSH U BUT DEAF BABIE AND DEAF CHILD NEED EDUCATION ASL AND ALL MEMBER DBC DEAF CHILD NEED GOT LEARN ASL AND
STOP TO DOCTOR-AGBELL WE ARE TEAM DBC EDUCATION TO DOCTOR AND GOV LAW U WILL HELP TO SUPPORT DBC ,, ME AGREE WITH Barb DiGi’s BLOG AND VLOG