Thursday, 17 July 2008

Peace in our time ?



Just before WW2 broke out Neville Chamberlain waved a 'peace treaty' signed by Adolph Hitler, shortly afterwards war broke out. 2003 or thereabout Mr Ladd wrote about deafhood, and a new 'war' broke out between Deaf and deaf. (I am drawing a parallel of concept, NOT suggesting Mr Ladd is Adolph !).

Understanding Deafhood failed to make deafhood an inclusive concept, Mr Ladd was rumbled, had the debates and famous 'discourses' only taken place, in the 'Deaf' world, he would have got away with it, but deaf.read and other aggregates online, include much wider diversity than he ever had access to, he was overtaken by events. Local versus global, and the globalists shredded his book, concept-wise.

The feedback made it clear we are ALL deaf and if, there is such a thing as a culture and community of deaf and HI People, (I was never entirely convinced), then we should all be in it, it cannot be exclusive to one area background or one area communication, or one person's idea of our history, which is all bound up together. Diversify, accept, and include, or deafhood faces the consequence, the DBC appear to have been one focus of that consequence, but any coming together of diverse deaf is going to provide the same feedback.

Respect, also has to be earned, it isn't a god-given right, we can, and must respect any mode used, we are however, not bound to respect the bigots who use them, and then hide behind it to divide us, no matter which direction they come from. The politics of inclusion is very difficult to equate for everyone, years, of skirmish and confrontations have to be addressed. Years of each sector having set up their own charities, lifestyles, and groups, and gone their own way, and are now being dragged into a 'global' aspect, sometimes unwillingly, if it works why fix it anyway ?

In reality it only worked because of avoidance systems, both educationally, and otherwise, poor access, or, they simply ran parallel lives to others, but they still clashed where mutuality forced them to address what divided them, the net is a great leveler, sign users fear it in part, despite having access too, because via demands to access and the 'level playing field', they want that sign, which is intrinsical to the cultural concept, captioned, so we got a divide again where stalwarts won't do it.

Deaf village ensued, showing us all, well, then, we will demand you do if you want in here, none too sure this is an ideal way, because that gives yet another impetus to those who feel 'hard done by' and can also promote the alternatives, i.e. sign-only aggregates..... then we are back to a stand off again...

What the deaf are experiencing is what EVERYONE these days is experiencing where global is 'local' now. 'Deafhood' is not going to be a 'label' the rank and file of the world (American !), deaf and HoH are going to have put on them, jars have labels, people don't like them, Americans are apparently obsessed with buzz-wording and labels, despite campaigning against, they seem to need them to ID each other, quite a lot more than other world deaf seem to...... The British want to be 'Visibly Invisible', (Which is a good trick if you can do it), and Houdini would have given a lot for....

There was a lack of inclusion and emphasis on all deaf together, and too much emphasis on respecting the divide, and the sometimes discriminatory reasons why divisions exist.. It pandered to those who felt 'culture' had its back to the wall, the deaf who felt trapped, forgotten about, discriminated against, non-included, or, the more inclusive aspects in society watered down the images of it, deaf didn't want to merge, and become part of the whole, that would make them invisible yet again, deaf people had an invisible disability long enough, now they wanted to be seen.

Sign language has been largely lost to them as the guardians and movers of it, more people sign not with cultural leanings, not even deaf sometimes, and have reduced it to 'one system amongst others', not given it the total priority some wanted, ran signing system their way, to take in the Politically Correct aspects of everything, inclusion policies here and there have forced them into situations, a number are not ready for, because unity and mutuality, had to cross the communications barrier.....

PC has undermined everyone's right. Commentators have long discussed this via 'colonialism' and other terms, it is in reality progress, and you can't fight it, if more people use a language, more variations will ensue, it is sod's law. If you can't beat it, join it, at least then you get some influence.

I was told recently "Why bother with America/deaf.read ? they aren't the only deaf people around, or the only online ones, who cares what those who are 'challenging' sign and culture say ? nothing they say or do makes any difference," Personally I think you dismiss America lightly at risk, it is avoiding what is actually going on, what IS going on, is at least an attempt to address very long-standing issues.

"It won't make any difference," is the second response I got. Maybe yes, maybe no, but at least some ARE trying.... Deaf.read may help it on its way, or may well be ripped apart by the many areas coming together with conflicting views, each, with some reluctance to change, and some with no intention whatever to do so. Good luck deaf.read, you are going to need it....

14 comments:

Karen Mayes said...

Yup... there is a lot of progress being made FOR deaf people in hearing world (accessibility such as interpreters, technological devices, etc.)... we don't see that on DeafRead. Instead we are seeing evolution of deaf people online, nothing more. The term "Deafhood" is the most commonly discussed on DeafRead, but very LEAST discussed in real life (we almost NEVER talk about it in real life.)

Dr Hocokan said...

How true.

I learned something last night from my VP conversation with a genius. We are not a deaf community. We are an ASL community. The term ‘deaf’ is a medical term. One does not form a community based on a medical term. One forms a community based on language therefore the name of our community is ASL community. The term, deaf is what divides us. The term ASL is what unites us.

Now, guess who is part of ASL community? Anybody that signs ASL! It involves interpreters, hearing people, oralists, CI, and the deaf, as long as they sign ASL.

Guess what it means? The term for Deafhood is invalid! Sorry Ella. Sorry DE. Sorry Paddy Ladd. Sorry DBC. Sorry deaf community.

Karen Mayes said...

Hey, MM, I left a comment on Paotie's blog about your style of writing... I am just making a point about the reading comprehension... how different it is between American deafies and British deafies, especially when it comes to the mastery of English. I could be wrong, though, since I am totally unfamiliar about British's deaf education and how British deaf children learn English in Great Britain...

MM said...

Obviously it is a singular view of things as I see them mainly, "At The Rim" tends to mean what it implies ! I have long since learnt the hard lesson of 'speaking for others', my view isn't shared by most in the UK, so it is a highly individual viewpoint, you would need to ask others about my 'command' of English, in reality, I came pretty near the bottom in school, I think I have learnt a bit since...

Don G. said...

Just in regards to MM's mastery of English --

As I recall, MM did not become Deaf (I know, I know, MM doesn't consider himself "Deaf", but I believe that we are all Deaf, whether we have been enculturated or not, just like a Black person is still Black, whether s/he has been raised by White people, so I have stopped making the d/D distinction, which is too confusing to try to figure out at times, anyway) until his teenage years. So, he had already developed a command of English naturally, as a Hearing person. Once developed, he couldn't lose it and the result is what you see today.

Brian L. Mayes said...

Wow, MM, that was some good reading! I like your point-of-view. It is a good healthy one.

Don G, again criticizing?? You are cynical! How about A "good job" or something? Didn't you read that he came in the bottom of his class? Kudos for him to buckle down and learn it. He writing is better than most hearing people.

Anyway, back to the point, I know it sounds like an impossible mission, but we are going to try! We have to be united, if we are going to get anyway as a community! But I'm not going to hold my breath... I'll contribute what I can, but that is about it. Teaching my kids the morals and to except diversity is about all I can do.

So, keep on writing cuz it sure is good readin'!

MM said...

Hi Don, I'm flattered by the fact you think there IS some English 'mastery' going on here,sadly, it is grammatically a mess(Thanks google for spell checkers !).

I consider myself a deaf individual, the fact is undeniable. I never had useful hearing after 12/13yrs of age, my English was very poor, my Maths pretty good ! When I was obviously going deaf I was beaten into submission BY my English teacher for not listening.. physically, I lost an eardrum in one assault. He said "MM will never attain any command or real English he is too stupid and never listens.." So it isn't the deaf child who gets these labels thrown at them, we do too ! I was determined to prove him wrong, I think, at least hope, I am improving all the time... (It's a personal thing, it's not to prove I am 'better' than a deaf child..), I was rather cautious initially, about attempting a blog approach where I 'dumbed down', as this would be seen negatively too, so WYSIWYG.

For the English purist, I over use the commas, and the ! mark :) (Because I like using them lol)...

Anonymous said...

Mad Merlin,

For someone whose English was initially poor, I must say you've learned to write your wit down well. This way it gets "heard" via your writing online for others to read all over the world. Your commas are descriptive as a pause right before the punchline, much in the way comedians time their jokes.

LOL, it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round, that's what makes DR spin. I thot it it was gonna go up in smoke this week after the DBC firestorm...there was so much flak.
Now some v/bloggers are peeping up out of their foxholes. :)

Ann_C

Don G. said...

Sigh....

Brian, GET OVER YOURSELF! How in what way did I criticize here?????

MM had command of the language, because he could hear it, until around 12 (maybe his hearing had started to go down a bit before that, but his language patterns (grammar) had been established already by at least age 6.

He was in the bottom of his class because he COULDN'T HEAR! And the teachers didn't know he couldn't so of course they weren't making accommodations for him (and they might not have, anyway, from the sound of what he has described).

As for minor grammatical errors, well that is a different issue, but rest assured many Hearing people make the same and worse... if I was allowed to, I'd show you some of my students' papers.... EEEEK! "Except" for "Accept", "you're" for "your", "aloud" for "allowed".... And let's not forget that ever-present apostrophe where it doesn't belong.... I could go on and on about the grammatical errors I see Hearing people make. But those are things that everybody has to learn, Deaf or Hearing.

But the point was that MM wrote well, "for a Deaf person". And he does. But he wasn't born "Deaf"...

MM said...

Well Don, I think it may well be a 'first', where an American tells Brits about 'English' lol.... This is from a country that hates 'u's spells 'centre' and many other words quite incorrectly, we wuz 'ere first lol... As with deaf communications, the primary point, is to be understood. Far be it for me, to ask each and every reader what academic attainments in English they have acquired first ! I am not going to feel 'guilt' because I had hearing during formative years, and I am not throwing this back in anyone's face. During your 'deafhood discourses' did you not say it makes no difference ? Is this some sort of 'hearing envy' we don't know about ?

Repeat after me.."The rain, in Spain, falls mainly, in the plain..." :) (Savanna, Prairie, Pampas......)

Don G. said...

MM,

I was in no way implying you should feel guilt about having had natural access to English during your formative years. It is what it is. I was just trying to explain how it is that you have better English compared to most Deaf people. I've studied this. I teach it. That's all.

MM said...

Would I get a grade :)

Kim said...

I can't remember where I read this so I might be way off base, but I recall reading one time that the average British child's vocabulary included more way more words than American adults. It may be a cultural thing. English is a wordy language. Englishmen learn use more words when they speak.

Anyway, just having come back from the International Federation of HH people up in Canada, I have to say I don't feel part of the Deaf community as much as the deaf/HH community. Though there was lots of signing, most were oral and the emphasis was on working together globally to benefit all hh/deaf/Deaf people. It was a fantastic experience. I hope you get a chance to go to this sometime if you haven't already.

MM said...

Really, English isn't that 'wordy', I think this is more my Welsh background than anything, we are a very 'wordy' race compared to England, we tend to prefer more different words for different things, whilst English is quite adept at utilising one word to mean many different things, we Welsh don't economise that way, Welsh tend to talk fast and too much too :)