Tuesday, July 15, 2008

Deafhood/Cult/DBC, Ella Mae Lentz, and how to recover from here.

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POSTSCRIPT

There are so many issues being thrown out there; religion, deafhood, DBC, AGBELL, the definition of Cult, some personal vendetta against other people especially Ella Mae Lentz. There are three large issues that I would like to address: 1) Deafhood/DBC and briefly the association with the term Cult, 2) Ella’s vlog or rather her partner’s vlog, and 3) where we go from here. I will divide this in three vlogs. Keep in mind, please, that while you are watching my vlog, consider the notion of deficit thinking and how we can better understand deficit thinking and moving on in positive discourses. Of course, this concept of deficit thinking was explicated very well by Ella Mae Lentz and David Eberwein (DE). If needed, please view their vlogs before mine.

Finally, this vlog is dedicated to advancing the lives of our future cherished deaf generation and for those who promote that cause.

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1) Deafhood. This vlog is based on DrDonG’s vlog (http://www.deafhooddiscourses.com/?p=33). I feel the need to define what I feel is the definition of Deafhood before even discussing the Cult aspect and DBC. The concept of Deafhood is not new. The word may be new, but the concept is not new. First of all, the word, “hood” is an English suffix derived from the German suffix meaning “state of being or consciousness.” Deaf people have always had a sense of being, a consciousness, a sense of identity whether it is being a deaf mute, HH, Hearing Loss, D, or d. The only difference is that some people choose to add “hood” into defining themselves. I feel that a lot of people misunderstand and think that Deafhood is an action verb, a process or a journey, but it’s really more like a noun or sometimes a passive verb. Deafhood is a PART of a journey and a process. Deafhood is a state of consciousness and enlightenment like childhood, adulthood, even statehood (DC for example), but there are many action verbs that are attached to it. For example, to arrive at (or become an adult) adulthood, some of the verbs and processes may include dating, exploring your identity, gaining responsibilities, and challenging yourself and challenging authority. However, adulthood has many different definitions and views of what types of verbs should be attached to it. Every religions/tribes/countries have their criteria, rituals, and processes to reach their sense of adulthood. For Deafhood according to Ladd, it would be exploring yourselves, understanding deaf history and reaching a sense of enlightenment through un-oppressing themselves and de-colonizing through a journey that will ultimately arrive to the greater sense of Deafhood. Those are verbs that define one type of Deafhood. Many groups have adopted their version of what it means to be deaf; members of AGBELL has their own “concept” of Deafhood, only that, they don’t call it DeafHood, they may call it HLA (Hearing Loss Association) with their own verbs occupying what it means to be a member of HLA. DBC may want to view their group under the Deafhood umbrella which is fine, they are trying to define what types of processes are necessary to reach Deafhood and it means to be a member associated with Deafhood. So, for DonG’s to compare Deafhood to a cult is negative; regardless if Dr.G was being facetious (humorous and not intended to be taken seriously) or sarcastic. The responses either blogs/vlogs are evidence that his vlog produced more harm than good. I am not blaming him, but I am blaming his lack of judgment and responsibility. I believe in free speech and entitlement to choose one's journey to Deafhood but I am a strong supporter that we use choose our words wisely and in a level of dialogue that will advance ourselves, not pull ourselves down as we all are already feeling. I am a radical and militant thinker and I support “thinking outside of the box” and to challenge/question our current hegemony and paradigm (See old vlogs). Sometimes it needs to be achieved in a manner that will not please everybody or the majority. However, to use the term Cult, a cheap and loaded term to classify a group in a negative connotation, that is a form of prejudice and discrimination. If you want to compare DBC to a cult, what's the larger point? What are you trying to achieve? You're continuing with the labeling. I have zero tolerance for that. Ben Vass stated that “50 years ago, it was ethical to say the N word.” I am sorry to inform you, but it was NEVER ethical. It may have been legal and allowed as it is legal to post a vlog and compare DBC to a cult, but it is not ethical. I am reading responses of people pointing fingers at each other, using discriminatory terms such as age, not old enough or too old, a coward, idiot, asshole, and so on. Ben, you are accurate when you say that everyone has the right to name call, everyone has the right to offend, but I am still shocked that you actually scooped so low to say the N word. You are continuing a spiral circle of prejudice. It is morally disgusting to see people continue to lower and degrade themselves in a manner to put other people down-even if you didn’t directly offend anybody, you are offending a population whether you intended or not. People have said that some of DBC members have degraded other group in a negative light, I really have not seen any direct evidence of this even to AGBELL, but rather outlining some concerns that they have with AGBELL, but if true, I will be equally as upset towards DBC. However, the approach that you guys are using, you know who you are, is absolutely counterproductive and you want evidence? You got it! In my view, DBC was trying to reach a level of awareness, educate the deaf community on some views, establish collaboration with AGBELL, and I felt that their mission was focused on early intervention and to ensure that the option of ASL was available. Of course, DBC and its members including the core members are not perfect. Nobody is perfect. At least they are trying. For them to organize a nationally-recognized conference in Milwaukee is very impressive. I cannot find the words, but to me, DBC’s true intentions are genuine, their actions are positive and most of all, they are just doing what they believe is right, whether using Deafhood as a part of their mission, the most important thing here is that they are here for the right intentions. If I felt otherwise, I would address them directly, not have an open vlog full of slander or even a chance for them to defend themselves. JFK said “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” Quit asking what DBC can do for you and instead ask what you can do for DBC. If you do not wish to be part of DBC or its sense of Deafhood, that’s absolutely fine, leave them alone. If you are not interested in them, they are not interested in you. but it’s another thing to resort to degrading terms to oppress them; what is the underlying point? I do not see any justification. We need to learn to be tolerant of each other.


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2) Ella Mae Lentz’s vlog (or rather her partner’s vlog). This is based on Ben Vess’ vlog (http://blog.benvess.com/?p=150). Wow. I honestly do not know what she did exactly, but like I said, nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes. We need to ask ourselves a few things. Is it worth slandering or using degrading terms like coward towards an individual? I do not care what that person did (or did not) do to you, there is no room of negative slandering. If you are upset with Ella Mae Lentz, approach the issue in a constructive and positive manner where she would be able to address your concerns in the same playing field. Instead, you are slandering her without giving her the chance to defend herself, I confirmed through a credible source that once you posted your vlog, not once did you offer her a chance to defend herself. And she’s a coward? Did it ever occur to you that there may be something personal going on in her life that she cannot attend to the current issues with DBC? and some of you have said that she needs to go back to her cave with her glimmering flashlight. That’s how I would feel if I was in her shoes. I would not want to return to the v/blogsphere. If she chooses to not return to the v/blogsphere, I honestly do not blame her and I have already been informed that there were a selected few other regulars (you know who you are) in the v/blogsphere that have decided to “quit.” We have already lost Patti Durr and Joey Baer. Because of that as a result of that, my ability to understand and perhaps disagree with them and others may have been lost. That opportunity for me to learn more about different people including Ella Mae Lentz, Patti Durr, and Joey Baer and their perspectives are lost. I feel that it is unfair and selfish for you all to bash an indiviudal and not consider the larger implications. If you have to go that far to degrade Ms. Lentz and cast her in a negative light, at least offer her some constructive options so that she may recover from a possible lapse in judgment and improve herself. One person’s response hit it in the nail. Like that person, I am equally as amazed on your energy. There is no question that you, Ben Vass and many others, have incredible amounts of energy and passion, but is it worth channeling that energy in a negative light? I offer you a simple advice; take it with a grain of salt. Anybody can be negative and slander others, but it takes a stronger person to be positive and if they disagree with someone, engage in discourse, understand their position, and establish a sense of camaraderie that will foster healthier relationships in the future and more importantly, for the future deaf generation, after all, isn’t it our job or our higher obligation especially in a minority cultural group in the current generation to pass the torch and raise the bar to the future generation so that they may continue to advance the lives of the deaf community? Guys, technology, the internet, the b/vlogsphere has been a huge advantage for all of us in the past. We were able to accomplish a lot of things, break down barriers, and who knows what more we can do together. Don’t let this overshadow our accomplishments. More importantly, don’t let this huge advantage become a disadvantage.

The choice is ours.


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3) Where do we go from here? This is a open vlog to all. Who really loses in all of this? The future deaf generation. I have a plea to ask you all. From this point on, every time you vlog or blog, I ask you to be very careful and consider your approach, attitudes, and intentions wisely because you are making history and this will be reflected in the future. Is this the kind of attitude and approach we want the world to see? Even deaf children whom are teenagers and becoming emerging leaders, is this something we want them to read? If you do not like Ella Mae Lentz, that’s fine, if you do not like me, I don’t blame you. If you do not like DBC, that is fine. Establish your own organization with your own set of values and what you feel would be “better” for the deaf community. Until then, have at least some respect and tolerance. If you want to raise some negative issues with an organization or with an individual, at least do it in an approach where it will open dialogue, who knows it could have been a huge misunderstanding and so easily resolved and more importantly, being able to move forward. I am ashamed and embarrassed to be a part of this whole thing. Someone posted a comment that they were surprised that I had the time to confront this issue. In reality, I don’t, we all don’t. Certainly the deaf community doesn’t have time. There are more important issues out there to confront. However, I will exert my time and energy if I feel that it would at least make some progress. I am not doing this out of pride or anger, but with confidence and faith that we will move on.

Finally, if you want to post a response to my vlog, I ask you all to please post in a mature and constructive manner that will help engage in more positive dialogues. If you feel the need to post something negative or a problem, please offer your solutions and refrain from degradatory terms; otherwise, I will ignore them. Thank you.

Again, the choice is ours.

D

25 comments:

Dr Hocokan said...

Hello. I truly enjoyed your vlogs. You are right on many counts and innocent on some counts. I tried for many months and weeks to get straight forward answers from Ella and others. They only understand linear approaches. That is why I write a blog called Hocokan, the Center. Have you read it yet? If not, check it out.

Secondly, you asked Ben if he thought his approach worked and if it was productive. On good terms no it didn't work but on ther side we would not receive responses like the one you produced as well as many others who swamped us with tons of emails telling us they now understand what the problem is and how they supported our quest for the truth. So, did it work? Yes. It was very effective. BUt was it an ideal way to deal with the problem? No. We gave Ella and others numerous opportunities to respond but they think they are our superiors. At times we need to wake them up with a BANG and make them realize it's unethical to ignore the community's quest for the truth. It takes two to tango, meaning it takes two productive communicator to reach solutions. In this case, we were on the quest for the truth and they didn't want to disclose the truth, which is Ella and DE's financial interest in Deafhood Foundation. They make money by providing Deafhood workshops however business was not thriving on their end so they tapped into DBB's movement who tapped into CAD's status and raised money and had a huge turn out in Milwaukee. They advertised Deafhood and now everybody wants to take the workshop. Guess who profits from the entire movement? Ella and De and their partners.

Ella is on the Board of CAD. She directs DBC. She owns Deafhood Foundation. See the connections? See the conflict of interests? I do. And that is why Ella is in the hiding.

To say that we're bashing them is unfair. And I agree with you about how unproductive we are when we resort to this kind of behavior. Unfortunately when one is hiding the truth there will be others who are going to seek the truth at all cost. I appreciate your vlogs very much and have recommended others to read it as well.

Before you posted your vlog I made a decision this morning and took a bold step and took down the web site known as DBCfacts.com, not because DBC asked me to (which they haven't done) but because i felt everybody's pain when they saw DBC coming down from the sky and crashed in name of integrity. I listened to people's pain and took the web site down based on good will movement and to give us room for closure. I made a decision not to disclose more evidences. I used only few evidences enough to make a point and did not go for the KILL. Why? I believe in the cause but don't have confidence in these leaders who are more interested in deafhood movement.

Be glad to discuss closures and next steps with you. My VP number is 886-321-3076. drhocokan@gmail.com.

Respectfully yours,
Barry

Aidan said...

Very good vlogs.. Well said! Thank you so much. I truly appreciate it. :o) Aidan

letcrackup said...

i agree with u complete!! Great job!! we alway love to learn! we need to challange and learn in correct path even we had mistake! that is very normal! i am your fan!!

bernannm said...

Thank you for making these vlogs. I agree with you on some points- most especially on the issue of name-calling. It was just- sad. Where I depart from agreement is your assertion that people would not respond back if attacked negatively. In general, yes, but leaders? I'm sorry, but they do not have that luxury. If you are the CEO of Target, and the corporation recently received a barrage of negative emails about a specific product, are you going to ignore it and hope it dies down? You can do that, but you shouldn't be surprised if the noise grows louder and more negative. As leaders of DBC, they are responsible to seeing to it that the organization is protected, and part of the protection includes addressing troubling questions in a timely manner. The troubling questions are legimitate questions-key people being forced out without due process, or resigning in less than a year, confusion about what kind of non-profit it is (if it is indeed a non-profit, then it cannot be under CAD and need to have bylaws), and so on. If these are mere rumors, then leaders need to be quick to dispel them, rather be swift-boated. If these are *not* falsehoods...well, then- Houston, we got a problem and they have to come clean. To not to address mounting concerns leaves DBC at even more vulnerable grounding. You blame Ben for destroying the opportunity for Ella or another leader to present their case. Really, it was the leaders themselves that destroyed the opportunity by deciding to say mum. I'm sure sociology have already informed you that the longer leaders stay quiet, people start thinking maybe there are truths to the allegations after all, and the image gets shakier and shakier- not unlike Enron. So if DBC loses, it won't be because of Ben or Barry or whoever, but because of the leaders' failure to address the issue at hand. She had to know that there were a lot of questions raised about DBC prior to that Ben Vess' vlog you speak of. You can tell she is aware of it because under the vlog that her partner did, Ella wrote a footnote saying "Be gentle please (to Judy in the comments".) I want DBC to succeed, but if business is being done unethically and unprofessionally- that is building a foundation of sand. Sand erodes.

adele ann said...

i thank you for sharing your 3 vlogs. i work with Deaf children everyday, and I am sad to say that their future doesn't look good with what is happening out there right now. it is now or never to change, which the DBC leaders are doing for the future of our Deaf children. again, thank you.

pingsandra said...

Tommy,

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I'm at loss for words in describing how I feel after having viewed all your vlogs. I think all I can come up with right now is that you have brought sanity to all this madness! I truly appreciate your time and energy in doing the vlogs today.
Yes, you are correct that Ella is a well-respected leader and she has worked hard for MANY years in advancing ASL, the Deaf community and for the betterment of our future Deaf generation. She definitely deserved the courtesy to be contacted to discuss issues first before being thrown in the public domain.

(Barry, Ella is NOT in hiding!! I saw her this morning. She is extremely busy. Please, Barry, refrain from making assumptions about her and her doings. Do you think that it would be safe for me to assume that your buckaroos hat-making business is not doing well these days because you have so much time on your hands in throwing slanders and libels in the DeafRead? I do not think so.)

Again, Tommy - THANKS for what you've done here today.

moi said...

Thank you, Tommy. I truly appreciate your vlog and call for civility and critical examination of the issues. As always, great analysis of the situation. THANK YOU!!!

Joey Baer said...

Tommy!

I fell in love with you - I really like how you examine the situation. You made several excellent suggestions and now it is up to vloggers/bloggers and Deaf Read to pick it up. That remains to be seen.

I promised myself that I am not going to go that low and into that mess. We have many things to do!

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts!

*ist said...

First of all, sorry for the length of these vlogs, I should have known better to keep it below 5 min., but I was really passionate about this issue.

Barry, I look forward to many more discourses with you. You brought great points. I guess my main point was that I would like to see some level of integrity and respect/tolerance if we are to tackle the very fundamental issues of our community.

Bernannm, thank you for your post and excellent insight. If indeed it was the core members' lack of leadership according to you and others, that's something I am interested in hearing what you have to say. Not in the approach to bash or degrade others which I may add was very entirely unnecessary.

Ella Mae Lentz said...

Thank you, Tommy, for taking the time to give some decency to Deaf Blogosphere and to challenge us to a higher level of compassion, thinking, dialogue...one that elevates us all for the sake of our future Deaf generation....just what many of us have been trying to do, including a couple of my dearest vloggers...Patti Durr and Joey Baer, who have left DeafRead, and who knows, others.

Yes, it is very tempting to just hide in a cave, but it won't do any good. In fact, I think I have been surviving out in the woods because I have elected not to focus on DeafRead or the negative blogs, but only on recommended v/blogs by friends. More importantly, a lot of credit goes to family and friends who are able to be honest with me and at the same time, embrace me wholly, and believe in me and the work I strive to do. And also to the amazing team I have with DBC (John, Tami, DE, Barb, Kristen, and DOR) and the others who were with us in Milwaukee, working side by side throughout that wonderful weekend.

I have hope that the Deaf community continues to be full of gems like you and many others who fought back, analyzed critically, and CHECKED directly with me.

You are correct, I always strive to be open, to dialogue. I am not perfect. That is why I greatly value "interdependence"....where a group of people strive for healthy constructive relationship with each other that work with each other's strengths, rather than focusing on our weaknesses.

That's what's been so amazing with DBC, both the core group and recently the Conference/Rally committee, and soon the State chapter people. People who went to the Conference got a taste of what was so hopeful and possible.

It's indeed very very sad that a few people chose not to seek that and to celebrate that possibility and to try it for themselves. I just keep on hoping that somehow, someday out of the ashes of the fire that like you said was iginited by a few, some good, strength and wisdom will bloom.

Ben Vess was not the only one for your information and I was relieved to see he had some decency to be open about stepping out for the sake of community's healing. Not that he has to leave, BUT he does place the community's healing as important enough. See his comment in Joey Baer's latest vlog.

Again, thank you for this vlog/blog series and I look forward to more from you.

Ella Mae Lentz said...
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*ist said...

(Ella Mae Lentz posted twice so I deleted the second repeat).

Ella,

You're very welcome; thank you for the opportunity to respond to my vlog-I appreciate it very much.

I look forward to collaboration and constructive discourses with every one including you and Vess even if I may disagree. We all can coexist peacefully, I don't know how to make it clearer than that.

Again, thank you. Hopefully other vloggers can understand my concern and help me understand the current issues so we all can discuss them and move on.

I look forward to that day.

MM said...

Frankly I want nothing to do with deafhood at all. It has caused so many problems amongst us all, it is far better deaf dropped it, everyone has their own angle on it, and is using it as an outlet for their frustation, a focus for targeting others.... attack the concept not the person, because the concept is seriously flawed. I just hate it when they start with the D.d thing which has also been used to divide, not, Identify. It does seem, the British deaf are far more balanced about this too.

Valerie said...

Thank you for including transcripts with your vlogs. You explained the situation so clearly. I have stayed out of the whole DBC situation since I neutral on the group. The current crop of blogs/vlogs over this situation is overwhelming. I do hope instead of airing our dirty laundry, the group can work together for a common cause.

Thank you for taking the time to explain this situation and hope the community can heal.

Karen Mayes said...

I read the transcripts and viewed your vlogs.

Hmmm... I am just one of the "moderates" who feel no need for Deafhood (hence, I am clumped into a group of people who is not for Deafhood, just because we feel comfortable in our skin.) Hmmm... I am for all OPTIONS for deaf children (I am a deaf mom of two deaf children who have vastly different learning styles... one as an aural learner and another as a visual learner, so my perspective is a little different.)

I know that the internet is an amazing world, but a bit scary one also. It is different from our daily world. We claim to be for BOTH diversity and unity. However, to bring about unity, we need to understand diversity first. I believe that is where the clashes come over what diversity should mean, since we all have our own definitions of diversity AND unity. Also, DR and other aggrators are the places for some people to start healing and unfortanetely for other people to pursue their personal vendettas. DR did a good job in bringing diversity and unity upfront, but it is WE who have different opinions. Right or wrong? Neither. It is how we handle ourselves on the DR that counts.

OCDAC said...

Include the small d's else the future deaf generation loses the big D's.

Nina said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You have made my day.
Nina

Davy said...

I clapping and waving your good performance Vlog with supreme possitive in your thought caring thinking for Deaf people with in your big heart.......
Way a go SIR!

Thanks
Davy

Deaf Pixie said...

This topic is excellent and clarifity words to all of blog and vlog... Excellent example of human mistaken by blame in first place.

I am sure the person made mistaken and need to soluation with all of these accusation goes away.

I prayed that DBC will SUCCESSFUL in 5-10 years from now. This DBC is just began from last week ago. I love the huge teams!

I have seen Ella's vlog inspiration me alot of time when I see Ella. Natural that all of DBC want to improve for deaf babies with ASL .. Not force a baby to ASL with cohlear implant. Alot of email I read .. Amazing me that all of blog and vlog are excellent way to nice to say.
Give Ben's time and thought about his admitted mistaken.
I hope MESS goes to straight out all of vlog and blog very soon! Doing it better from this evening or so?

Dr Hocokan said...

Hey friend,

I learned something last night from my VP conversation with a genius. I learned that we are not a deaf community. We are an ASL community.

The term ‘deaf’ is a medical term. One does not form a community based on a medical term. One forms a community based on language therefore the name of our community is ASL community. The term, deaf is what divides us. The term ASL is what unites us.

Now, guess who is part of ASL community? Anybody that signs ASL! It involves interpreters, hearing people, oralists, CI, and the deaf, as long as they sign ASL.

Why and how did we start off calling our community the "deaf community"? It started at the DEAF SCHOOL! We labeled ourselves as deaf community, failing to realize that we were in fact an ASL community.

Guess what it means? The term for Deafhood is invalid and should be. Sorry Ella. Sorry DE. Sorry Paddy Ladd. Sorry DBC. Sorry deaf community.

MM said...

I don't have any issue with the word deaf DR Hocokan, it describes my hearing loss, aka "This person is deaf so cannot hear..", I see nothing wrong with that, seems a pretty accurate description to me. It DOESN'T describe what, or who, I am as a PERSON or an INDIVIDUAL, I think deaf culture started with that line, and mainstream continued with the assumption. The pursuit of culture is responsible for a simple statement of fact, to be turned into a lifetime of agonising over who they might or might not be, perhaps some I am sure we are all ears, albeit not working !one can explain the point of that ?

MM said...

Sorry gremlins about !

'perhaps some I am sure we are all ears, albeit not working !one can explain the point of that ?'

should have read...

"perhaps someone can explain the point of that ? I am sure we are all ears, albeit none are working !"

bernannm said...

The leaders still have not responded to the concerns voiced regarding how the organization is structured, so I am going to view DBC with great skepticism and some disdain. I am not going to waste my time on an organization that may be grounded on sand.

Deb Ann said...

Thanks for your beautiful work!

touringc said...

Bravo! This is the type of discussion that is encouraging for our future generations.

I'll watch the vlogs when I have time this weekend and join in the discussion!

I'm pleasantly impressed that the discussion so far has been civilized. *fist bump* to everyone.

Good job, D.

Brett