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Original: 9/19/2007 4:35 PM
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Wednesday, September 19, 2007
 

Scamming Deaf via Sidekick

These days I have been both interested and disturbed by the creativity of scammers trying to get into my bank account, my credit accounts, and my communications.  Some are truly scary...they even know my full name, my bank, and my address.

I had set up a Facebook account to keep in touch with my kids, and this may be how the scammer got my info. Note: Facebook asks for your email account AND YOUR EMAIL PASSWORD (separately from the login password) to research for other people by hobby, location, school, occupation, etc. DON"T GIVE IT. Use a throwaway email account and password and give that instead.

I work for a company that makes available on the Web, among other things, a public database with information on people, even their taxpayer status, marriage status, employment, criminal and court histories, and some other information I am afraid to ask about. This is a database for lawyers, business owners, credit agencies, and who else God knows. All it takes is as little as $24.95 and you can end up with more information on a person than you need to know.

It wasn't the first time this scammer touched me. It came in by Sidekick as I was driving to work and read during traffic stops.

---------------------- 7:11 am ----------------------
SCAMMREPAYFBI:  Hello, I am an FBI agent (Badge number  W42315 US DOD DOJ 0042738 ).

(this is the first time an ID was given. It is sure to be a phony one. Most police agents give names and locations of offices.)

SCAMMREPAYFBI: I am an online helper for deafs. I was chosen by the
Authority Ofiicer FBI to handle some cases like the internet fraud and
internet scam activities. Have you been scam before? Or a Friend of
yours got scam? If YES! talk to me here because we are going to pay you
back whatever money collected from you today through western union
money transfer service. Also some scammers have been arrested from Africa. 
mostly from Nigeria and now they are in JAIL.We have also paid back to
about 650 deafs that got scammed.
(The English pattern sounds foreign. Also no professional law enforcement person would talk like this.)

SCAMMREPAYFBI: Hello  D----------P---------  (used my real name, the bastard.)
SCAMMREPAYFBI:
SCAMMREPAYFBI:
how are  you doing?
SCAMMREPAYFBI: Are you there?
SCAMMREPAYFBI: Talk to me
  ---------------------- 7:22 am ----------------------
SCAMMREPAYFBI: HELLO (shifted to all caps, probably using a computer)
SCAMMREPAYFBI: HOW ARE YOU DOING?
SCAMMREPAYFBI: ARE YOU THERE?
SCAMMREPAYFBI: TALK TO ME RIGHT NOW
(now he's giving me orders.)

SCAMMREPAYFBI: DO YOU UNDY WHAT I SAID?
(
doesn't he sound like a stupid cop now?)

  ---------------------- 8:21 am ----------------------
SCAMMREPAYFBI: scammrepayfbi signed on at 8:31 am.
 ---------------------- 9:00 am ----------------------
dianrez: Can't talk to u now pls give me a nbr to call u back  (trying to get anything that will trace him)
SCAMMREPAYFBI: this is an fbi agent
dianrez: Nbr pls
(he's wise to me. Not giving any information at all.)
  ---------------------- 9:05 am ----------------------
dianrez: Wd like to discuss but not now so give me a phone nbr and ill
call u back by relay ok (
Long silence. Logged off.)
Logged on.
Logged off.
Logged on.
Logged off.

(no reply, other than logging on and off all day.)

This conversation has already been reported to the FBI Internet Crimes office because it involves impersonating a FBI agent.

Have Deaf people fallen victim to scammers, phishers and fake offers through the internet? There is a way to respond anonymously to this blog, please post your information so we can see how extensive this problem is.

 Posted 9/19/2007 4:35 PM - 513 views - 13 comments

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Unfortunately, they seem to target us deaf people. I know that to be true because I have 3 Yahoo! e-mail addresses...1) my children only...2) deaf people only...& 3) hearing people only.  With the #1, I get no junk mail so why am I not surprised?  With #3, I get a few spams  in spite of the fact that I am on many mailing lists because of genealogy.  With #2, the spammers/scammers have flooded my computer with many, many unwanted mails.  They took (still do) advantage of my YIM.  I think that the videophone list and deafVP.com are exposing our vulnerability.  It would be nice if all Sorenson VP Installers take the time to educate the less fortunate ones.  Just my 2 cents worth.

Lois

Posted 9/20/2007 4:06 AM by Lois - reply

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It's kind of strange because I get the same type scams, though only in email....I don't own a Sidekick.                                                                                                                                                                                I mean, hardly a day goes by that I don't receive email saying some Deaf person, in Africa wants to send me millions of dollars.

Of course, it also requires me to give personal information, such as my bank account number, which I'd have to be a Deaf and dimbulb to do, so I know, immediately, that it's a scam.

Posted 9/20/2007 8:20 AM by Deafpreacher - reply

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UPDATE: This happened last night.

(Scammer has been logging in and off for several hours now.)

SCAMMREPAYFBI:  hello

SCAMMREPAYFBI:  hello

dianrez: May I know your name pls?

(Long pause, at least 5 minutes)

SCAMMREPAYFBI:  Sure

dianrez: Name pls.

(Long pause, maybe looking it up)

SCAMMREPAYFBI:  my name is inspector williams johnson         johnson

(Foreigners frequently give names using two English last names. Note the "Williams Johnson.")

dianrez: your office and address pls

(long pause: probably trying to look it up on a script or on the internet)

SCAMMREPAYFBI: what for?

SCAMMREPAYFBI:  ?

dianrez: Verification that you are real

(No reply.  Logging in and off repeatedly until 9 a.m. the next morning.)

Posted 9/20/2007 9:54 AM by dianrez - reply

Never had this happen to me, but I will keep an eye out.

I do get scam e-mails to my WORK e-mail!!!! Oh I love getting e-mails that tell me I won the lottery in Ireland or Australia, or that I am needed for assistance in transferring millions of dollars.

Bah.

Thanks for sharing the word.
Posted 9/20/2007 2:30 PM by Hana (site) - reply

I get it, too. Grr...

You are not alone...

gwlj

Posted 9/24/2007 5:08 AM by Grant W Laird Jr (site) - reply

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I get it too.  Quite often, actually.  They keep switching to different screenames after I blocked them but now I realize I should have kept our conversations and report it to FBI.  Hmpth.  I'll unblock them then. *chuckles*

I figured it was a scam too.   Glad to know that I'm not the only one.

-Rosa Lee

Posted 10/11/2007 10:54 AM by rovalee - reply

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I've yet to fall victim to this because I have a compu-pro friend, who, when I first got online, told me to watch for them.  From time to time, I even get sob notices from a Deaf heiress, in South America (of course you'll never get one from next door, you know) offering to give me millions of dollars, if I'll give them my bank info, Soc. Sec. #, etc. 

Truth be told, it seemed too good to be true.  So, with that in mind, when I met the man, I've mentioned, I asked him and he said, "If it seems to be  too good to be true, it probably isn't true."

Posted 1/24/2008 11:11 PM by Deafpreacher - reply

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I have a friend, whom I contacted, right after I came online, who is a computer professoinal.      

This man helped me because I asked him why I'm getting posts, requesting to give me millions of dollars, when I know you don't get something for nothing.  His reply was, "This is a scam."

Thank the Lord I had him to help me because, otherwise, I might have given them information that would have ruined me.

Posted 1/24/2008 11:13 PM by Deafpreacher - reply

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I am a late deafened adult - I've been totally Deaf, since I was ten and if you ask me, the Deaf are easy marks for scammers, etc.


Why?  Because we (this included me, until I knew what was going on, fortunately, I had the sense not to put my social security number, etc. in the 'net) don't understand what is going on, out there.


In 1999, I purchased my first pc and became a member of a ListServ, consisting of members of a missionary group, I'd been in, years before.  One of the origianl members of this group was also in the List and I'd ask him why I was getting pop-ups saying I had millions of dollars awaiting me.                                                                     His reply was simple:  "One key:  You don't get something for nothing!"


The problem is, the majority of the Deaf people go blindly into this new medium, without the benefit of someone like the friend, I've just mentioned.  So, they become easy marks for scammers because the lure of free money is so strong.


Posted 4/28/2008 12:14 AM by GaryisDeaf - reply

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I just got one of these from Deafhelper22. I googled the badge number and came upon this blog. I asked for their vp number and the person admitted they are not deaf! Just letting you know about another screen name for a scammer!
Posted 5/22/2008 4:37 PM by Josivy - reply

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@Josivy - Thanks for the info--it has been continuing under different names and it appears that it is a successful scam that is victimizing some Deaf people, because it has gone on so long and it appears to be more than one person because the language is slightly different on some of them. I wish there were some way to warn all Deaf people with computers and pagers. 

 

Posted 5/22/2008 6:13 PM by dianrez - reply

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deafhelper22 is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
deafhelper22 [6:24 P.M.]:  hey
Auto response from XxTheChaosMindxX [6:24 P.M.]: I will be right back.
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:24 P.M.]:  hey
deafhelper22 [6:24 P.M.]:  how are u doing
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:24 P.M.]:  good who this?
deafhelper22 [6:25 P.M.]:  Hello, I am an FBI agent (Badge number  W42315 US DOD DOJ 0042738 ).
I am an online helper for deafs. I was chosen by the Authority Ofiicer FBI to handle some cases like the internet fraud and internet scam activities. Have you been scam before? Or a Friend of yours got scam? If YES! talk to me here because we are going to pay you back whatever money collected from you today through western union money transfer service. Also some scammers have been arrested from Africa.  mostly from NigerThere's a  programm organised by the United State Of america FBI, CIA and Corps in collaboratoin with the Nigerian Force becuase of the on-going scam activities.ia and now they are in JAIL.We have also paid back to about 650 deafs that got scammed.
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:26 P.M.]:  i never seen FBI paid anyone back so get fucking lost
deafhelper22 [6:26 P.M.]:  what did u mean?
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:27 P.M.]:  show me pic yourself if u are really FBI
deafhelper22 [6:27 P.M.]:  Yes
deafhelper22 [6:27 P.M.]:  i will
deafhelper22 [6:27 P.M.]:  have u bein scammed before?
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:27 P.M.]:  u know what i will report you...  my life been a scammed all the time
deafhelper22 [6:27 P.M.]:  Have u bein scammed before?
deafhelper22 [6:28 P.M.]:  ?
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:28 P.M.]:  why u wanna know??
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:28 P.M.]:  u should know who they scammed
deafhelper22 [6:28 P.M.]:  Yes i am here to pay u back what ever money collected from you
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:29 P.M.]:  how u know i am deaf?
deafhelper22 [6:29 P.M.]:  Yes i got ur name from our fbi computer here is the scam list
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:29 P.M.]:  question how my name got there?
deafhelper22 [6:30 P.M.]:  Yes you are among of the scammed victim
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:31 P.M.]:  well have i been scammed?
deafhelper22 [6:32 P.M.]:  What did u mean?
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:33 P.M.]:  if my name is listed on scammed then i been scammed
deafhelper22 [6:33 P.M.]:  Yes how much were u bein scammed before?
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:34 P.M.]:  18,000 dollar by you and bush!
deafhelper22 [6:34 P.M.]:  i know  u are playing game around
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:34 P.M.]:  look i dont believe u the FBI
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:34 P.M.]:  u havent show me a proof
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:35 P.M.]:  website with your pic with FBI number
deafhelper22 [6:35 P.M.]:  Well
deafhelper22 [6:35 P.M.]:  Here is real
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:35 P.M.]:  not on aol..
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:35 P.M.]:  or aim
deafhelper22 [6:35 P.M.]:  What did u mean?
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:36 P.M.]:  being online people always lie..
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:36 P.M.]:  if u want to find out if any deaf people been scammed then post it on deafnetwork.com it free
deafhelper22 [6:37 P.M.]:  ok
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:37 P.M.]:  http://deafnetwork.com/wordpress/archives/ XxTheChaosMindxX [6:38 P.M.]:  u still havent answer my question..
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:38 P.M.]:  how my name get listed?
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:42 P.M.]:  u so stupid
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:42 P.M.]:  http://www.xanga.com/dianrez/616938941/item.html
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:42 P.M.]:  u busted
deafhelper22 [6:42 P.M.]:  what do u want
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:42 P.M.]:  what do u want?
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:43 P.M.]:  take a look at the website i found
XxTheChaosMindxX [6:43 P.M.]:  different screen name  nice
Posted 8/6/2008 7:45 PM by deafsundallas - reply

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Thanks, Deafsundallas for posting your experience. It sounds like the same jerk trying to rip off more deaf people...and if he is still doing it months later, he must have been successful in victimizing some of us. Don't ever reply to emails or IM or other messages from strangers especially if they talk about money. Protect yourselves!
Posted 8/6/2008 9:30 PM by dianrez - reply


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